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From: Steve Fenwick on 4 Aug 2010 03:43 In article <i39nbd$m5c$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, "Buffalo" <Eric(a)nada.com.invalid> wrote: > Steve Fenwick wrote: > > In article <Xns9DC91AB3EABD0HHI2948AJD832(a)69.16.185.247>, > > > > It might be a regionalism, or a Britishism/Americanism. In over 20 > > years I've never used, or heard used, "soldering pencil" in a lab in > > the U.S., although I am familiar with the term. It's always been > > "soldering iron", whether a giant thing to solder heavy cables, or a > > tool suited to tiny ICs and SMT parts. Metcals are generally the best > > I've seen for small devices; they put a high temperature (typically > > 600 to 700F) into a very very small area very quickly (80W output). > > > > Steve > > C'mon, you never heard of a soldering pen? > Buffalo I've heard the term, but never used by me or techs in a lab. Steve -- steve <at> w0x0f <dot> com "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, sidecar in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"
From: Steve Fenwick on 4 Aug 2010 03:49 In article <Xns9DC9A7663D490HHI2948AJD832(a)69.16.185.250>, Dustin <bughunter.dustin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Steve Fenwick <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in > news:nospam-9B8B6B.09575203082010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi: > > > In article <Xns9DC91AB3EABD0HHI2948AJD832(a)69.16.185.247>, > > Dustin <bughunter.dustin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> John Slade <hhitman86(a)pacbell.net> wrote in > >> news:i37va2$e0f$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: > > > >> > I got my start in electronics and have a background in > >> > that too. I took college courses in electronics and am no > >> > stranger to repairing circuit boards. I'm no stranger to > >> > soldering irons. Well that's what we called them. I used to > >> > repair TVs, radios and such years ago. > >> > >> Odd. I'm familiar with soldering irons as well as pencils, and we > >> typically use the pencils for detail work that the iron generates > >> too much heat for. Irons aren't good for changing out small > >> transistors, IC's or caps due to the risk of damage, and especially > >> these days with a pile of components nearby the one that has to be > >> replaced; a pencil is the only way to safely do it. Lower wattage, > >> less heat. > >> > > > > It might be a regionalism, or a Britishism/Americanism. In over 20 > > years I've never used, or heard used, "soldering pencil" in a lab in > > the U.S., although I am familiar with the term. It's always been > > "soldering iron", whether a giant thing to solder heavy cables, or a > > tool suited to tiny ICs and SMT parts. Metcals are generally the > > best I've seen for small devices; they put a high temperature > > (typically 600 to 700F) into a very very small area very quickly > > (80W output). > > > > Steve > > > > 80watts output would burn an IC up on a wave soldered board... Nope. Use it all the time that way. Melts the solder super-fast, keeps the leads from getting hot. Try one if you get a chance. Steve -- steve <at> w0x0f <dot> com "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, sidecar in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"
From: Buffalo on 4 Aug 2010 10:19 Dustin wrote: > "Buffalo" <Eric(a)nada.com.invalid> wrote in > news:i3a2qi$h1q$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: > >> Dustin wrote: >>> That's like some electricians I know that call all 9" linemans >>> pliers klein, even tho they aren't. As klein is actually a company >>> name. >> >> Hey, how did you know I am a licensed electrician? >> And yes, it is common in the trade to call them 'kleins', like in, >> 'can I borrow your kleins?' > > Yep. Dykes as well, linemans, whatever. :) I have the kobalt set right > now; as I killed my GB ones; they won't even cut romex now without > putting up a fight. I'm not sure yet if I like the spring loaded > kobalt ones I'm using now, but they sure do making cutting wire a > since. They even cut MC cable now, without me snapping it in the > place I want to cut first. Love em, and affordable at Lowe's. > > I didn't know your a licensed electrician. Are you a holding a > journeymans license at present, or outright master electrician? > > I'm just a lowly apprentice with no official licensing yet. Journeyman license. Never went for the Masters since I don't contract. Buffalo PS: When I ask for a liney, I usually mean a beer (Leinenkugel). :)
From: John Slade on 4 Aug 2010 15:11 On 8/3/2010 2:47 PM, Buffalo wrote: > Dustin wrote: >> That's like some electricians I know that call all 9" linemans pliers >> klein, even tho they aren't. As klein is actually a company name. > > Hey, how did you know I am a licensed electrician? > And yes, it is common in the trade to call them 'kleins', like in, 'can I > borrow your kleins?' > Buffalo :) > > It's like people calling powdered drink mix from Flavor Aid, "Kool-Aid". I'm sure we've all heard the expression, "Drinking the Kool-Aid" when talking about someone who follows something or someone blindly. Well it came from the Jim Jones tragedy in Jonestown, Guyana. They drank poisonded Flavor Aid but most people still call it Kool-Aid. They just wrote me an essay trying to explain why some people call them soldering pencils and soldering guns rather than irons. I've heard those expressions before, it's just a matter of the person's background and doesn't really mean much. John
From: John Slade on 4 Aug 2010 15:17
On 8/2/2010 11:27 AM, Dustin wrote: > John Slade<hhitman86(a)pacbell.net> wrote in > news:8ND5o.33941$o27.31443(a)newsfe08.iad: > >> On 8/1/2010 6:57 PM, FromTheRafters wrote: >>> "John Slade"<hhitman86(a)pacbell.net> wrote in message >>> news:Xyo5o.41721$OU6.25986(a)newsfe20.iad... >>> >>> [...] >>> >>>>>> I don't know why you would find it funny because a virus writer >>>>>> will use anything to hide a virus. What smarter way is to hide >>>>>> them in each and every folder in "system volume information"? >>> >>>> I didn't know Dustin Cook existed until he responded for you. >>>> But I've >>>> been reading some in alt.comp.viruses and I find it >>>> well...interesting... If he wrote viruses then he more than anyone >>>> should know that what I said happened is indeed possible. >>> >>> Because he understands true viruses, he knows that they don't need >>> to hide themselves in folders. >>> >>> I don't think he would have said what he said if you had said >>> worms, or malware, instead of viruses. >> >> Well "virus" is a generic term these days. I was talking >> about worms and/or trojans, I was using "virus" as a generic >> term. I guess that clears it up. > > virus isn't a generic term, then or now. As a professional, I think it > unwise of you to generalize what might be ailing the patient. > "Virus" is both a generic term and a specific term. Why do you think they call the software used to clean trojans and worms, "Anti-Virus" software? I'm sure you don't think that they only clean viruses and leave trojans and worms alone. It's all a matter of semantics. Just about all of the major anti-malware vendors have products that they call Anti-Virus. This is because it just stuck. You're a professional and you don't know this? John |