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From: David H. Lipman on 5 Aug 2010 17:25 From: "John Slade" <hhitman86(a)pacbell.net> | On 8/4/2010 1:53 PM, David H. Lipman wrote: >> From: "John Slade"<hhitman86(a)pacbell.net> >>>> The term "malware" is generic. >>>> The term "virus" is quite specific. >> | "Virus" is both a generic term and a specific term. Why do >> | you think they call the software used to clean trojans and >> | worms, "Anti-Virus" software? I'm sure you don't think that they >> | only clean viruses and leave trojans and worms alone. It's all a >> | matter of semantics. Just about all of the major anti-malware >> | vendors have products that they call Anti-Virus. This is because >> | it just stuck. You're a professional and you don't know this? >> Sorry John - No. | Well it's time you learned. I've been studying malware since I had to erradicate the "Jerusalem.B" from a Novell 2.11 network. That was a true file infecting virus. I have been at this long enough to say emphatically, YOU need to learn otherwise do NOT call yourself a professional. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: David H. Lipman on 5 Aug 2010 17:26 From: "John Slade" <hhitman86(a)pacbell.net> | On 8/4/2010 2:48 PM, FromTheRafters wrote: >> "John Slade"<hhitman86(a)pacbell.net> wrote in message >> news:J3j6o.48696$3%3.27633(a)newsfe23.iad... >> [...] >>> I know exactly what I'm talking about. So tell me what tools do >>> you use to remove worms and trojans from computers? Are any of them >>> called "Anti-Virus" software? >> Yes, but that is beside the point. | No that's the point entirely. The word "virus" is | acceptable to just about everyone except a few anal retentive | people who love to go around correcting everyone. Its is ONLY accecpted by the "uneducated" person. The ones who get infected! -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: Wolf K on 5 Aug 2010 17:33 On 05/08/2010 17:23, David H. Lipman wrote: [...] > I'm sorry, just because the "average" person calls all malware a "virus" does not make it > correct and if you insist on following this train of thought, please do NOT call yourself > a "professional." > > Yeah, well,context rules. No matter how carefully people use terminology in their professional lives, words will escape into the wild, and then all bets are off. It's context that determines a word's meaning. In every-day usage, "anti-virus" has come to mean what "anti-malware" means in a professional context. That's just the way it is. The first rule of communication is "Adapt to your audience." cheers, wolf k.
From: David H. Lipman on 5 Aug 2010 17:42 From: "Wolf K" <wekirch(a)sympatico.ca> | On 05/08/2010 17:23, David H. Lipman wrote: | [...] >> I'm sorry, just because the "average" person calls all malware a "virus" does not make >> it >> correct and if you insist on following this train of thought, please do NOT call >> yourself >> a "professional." | Yeah, well,context rules. No matter how carefully people use terminology | in their professional lives, words will escape into the wild, and then | all bets are off. | It's context that determines a word's meaning. In every-day usage, | "anti-virus" has come to mean what "anti-malware" means in a | professional context. That's just the way it is. The first rule of | communication is "Adapt to your audience." You can't call all malware a virus just beciuse you use anti virus software. It doesn't work that way and is a miconception and misnomer. If a majority of people have a misperception of a concept, their majority does not change the concept. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: David H. Lipman on 5 Aug 2010 17:44
From: "Ant" <not(a)home.today> | "FromTheRafters" wrote: >> If I send someone out for coke, I sure don't want them coming back with >> a pepsi. :oD | Especially when you're expecting the finest Bolivian marching powder! I tried Coke once but the ice cubes got stuck in my nose. :-) -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp |