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From: Cronos on 1 Feb 2010 17:51
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

> Sure. But the web server is still Apache.
>
But I wasn't talking about a web server. I was talking about the X GUI.
From: Beauregard T. Shagnasty on 1 Feb 2010 19:05
Cronos wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> Sure. But the web server is still Apache.
>
> But I wasn't talking about a web server. I was talking about the X GUI.

But you responded to a post where I was talking about a web server. (as
was David)

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From: Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries on 1 Feb 2010 18:49
Cronos wrote:
> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>
>> Sure. But the web server is still Apache.
>>
> But I wasn't talking about a web server. I was talking about the
> X GUI.

Egad.

My head hurts.

Anyway, you drifted. The discussion was about a web server, not about the X
GUI:

David Kaye wrote:
> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous(a)example.invalid> wrote:
>
>> ...yet you believe that a Linux/Apache web host allowing a web
>> site to serve a Windows-infecting PDF file is a Linux problem.
>
> Yes, because a web server should not be sending out malware. Why
> don't you use your real name? Are you afraid of something?

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From: Cronos on 3 Feb 2010 22:06
thang ornithorhynchus wrote:

> AV, anti spyware, whatever. The web is full of derogatory commentary
> on this product, and its a fact that if one doesn't run Firefox as is,
> that is, if one uses torbutton with privoxy, noscript, etc etc, then
> it trumps IE. Most people using IE are noobs and/or don't care less,
> and if security is run at default its mighty unsafe. Now I haven't
> read Schneier on this comparison, assuming he has evaluated both, but
> I betcha he comes up with the same conclusion.

I've read test reports and out of the box IE is more secure than FF.
There's a reason you get so many updates to FF, because it has more
holes. IE is recommended for noobs for that reason. The most secure is
Opera so if security was your sole criteria then that is the browser I
recommend to noobs.
From: David Kaye on 4 Feb 2010 21:09
thang ornithorhynchus <thang(a)spitzola.com.org.net> wrote:

>Its one of the most important criteria for me, but I'll stick with IE
>8 thanks its fancier than the opposition and there are other things I
>do for security. About the only thing I can say for Firefox is that
>its really easy to use Tor/Privoxy (its butt ugly).

One curious side-effect of IE is that it won't work when a proxy server is set
up, whereas Firefox, Opera, and others will. Spyware usually sets up a proxy
server, but many of the anti-malware tools do not turn it off, and it's not
something a malware hunter looks for unless there are connectivity issues.
Thus, if IE runs well, I can pretty much bet that all is right with the world.

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