WinXP Install on 1TB drive [Hardware]

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From: GT on 27 Jan 2010 10:28

"Paul" <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote in message
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> GT wrote:
>> "Darklight" <nglennglen(a)netscape.net> wrote in message
>> news:P-ednQ1kWZpNm_3WnZ2dnUVZ7sOdnZ2d(a)bt.com...
>>> GT wrote:
>>>
>>>> Virus attack has 'broken' Windows (my own fault). Boot now fails half
>>>> way
>>>> through Windows XP loading screen - restarts with no warning. Safe mode
>>>> is
>>>> the same! All my data
>>>> files *are* backed up, but I want to avoid the annoyance of
>>>> re-configuring
>>>> all my XP settings and restoring 700GB of data to my second partition.
>>>>
>>>> The primary hard disk is 1TB sata. It was partitioned 50GB Fat32 system
>>>> C:
>>>> with WinXP pro and the rest as data drive D:.
>>>>
>>>> The partitions and tables are fine, just a few windows system files are
>>>> corrupt, but the WinXP install cannot 'see' the partition in order to
>>>> repair install - it just sees an empty 137GB drive. I have reduced the
>>>> C:
>>>> to under 32GB (used Ubuntu) to 'please' the windows installer gods, but
>>>> the windows installer cannot see it.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone suggest a way that I can repair my XP installation on my
>>>> primary partition without affecting the secondary partition?
>>> why don't you just reinstall the reinstall won't touch the d drive.
>>> As you can choose what partition to install to.
>>> Or use the repair function. winxp has a repair system when you start the
>>> install from cd you can press r key on keyboard to go into repair mode
>>> and
>>> from there you should be able to repair xp.
>>
>> As above - It only offers me the option to create a new partition!
>
> First of all, did the AV tool you used to clean the disk, "quarantine"
> the infected files ? Any chance you could look at the files that
> were removed from their proper place, to begin to understand what needs
> fixing ? Maybe the WinXP install CD refuses to "repair" C:, because some
> key files that would make it look like an install, have been removed.
>
> If the AV tool just threw all the quarantined files away, you'll have no
> record of what was removed. Some standalone (Linux CD) type scanners,
> can store the quarantined files in RAM disk, and as soon as you
> reboot, any record of what was removed is lost. If you used a tool like
> that, then you'd need to compare the file manifest of C: with a
> non-broken machine, to figure out what needs replacing to "prime the
> pump".
>
> With respect to doing a reinstall with your WinXP CD, to that 1TB drive,
> make sure the WinXP CD you're using, is slipstreamed to some service
> pack. If you were to Repair Install from a WinXP Gold (no SP) CD, the data
> partition could get trashed by the lack of big disk support. Make sure
> the CD you're using is at least SP1. If you use the "Gold" or original
> release WinXP CD, it will see the 1TB drive as 137GB, and have problems
> if it attempts to access the second partition. You have to be very careful
> with stuff like that. On my current machine, I managed to run "broken"
> that
> way for a while, by making sure no partitions extended above 137GB. Then,
> once I was running the proper minimum Service Pack on my multiboot
> machine,
> I could safely place or extend partitions above 137GB. So maybe your
> issues
> are partially due to the Service Pack level of the CD ?
>
> For slipstreaming, you need a Microsoft Windows CD, plus at least one
> downloaded Service Pack file, then use a tool like NLite from nliteos.com.
> If I knew my current install was SP2 on the hard drive, I might slipstream
> in SP2 using this tool.
>
> http://www.nliteos.com/guide/part1.html
>
> You can still get SP2 and SP3 for download. I tried to find a working SP1a
> link, but that is gone now (you'd have to get someone to send you a copy
> if you wanted that one). This link is SP2.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=049c9dbe-3b8e-4f30-8245-9e368d3cdb5a&DisplayLang=en
>
> Also, something else I've read, is Repair Install as an option, expects
> you haven't updated some of the bundled tools. For example, Microsoft
> expects you to uninstall IE8, before using Repair Install on a
> partition. Repair Install is a "nice to have", as long as you're not
> torpedoed
> by dependencies you don't know about (like IE or WMP "upgrades").
>
> I haven't experienced all of the above, but these are some things
> I've read about as potential issues or things to research. I think
> I'd be most concerned about using tools/environments that respected
> the >137GB issues, to avoid damage to the data partition. Once that is
> taken care of, you have more time to figure out how to get a Clean Install
> into the lower partition, if it is too trashed to support a Repair
> Install.
> At the very least, when you're using your WinXP CD, it shouldn't be
> mentioning "137GB" in the setup screen at all. That tells me large
> disk support is broken on the CD you're using. I know this, because
> I've experienced that here (seen "137GB" in the installer partition
> window, when it was looking at my 250GB SATA drive). After preparing
> a slipstreamed installer CD, it could see the whole 250GB and there
> was no longer any mention of 137GB. As soon as I saw that "137GB"
> reference,
> I knew I had to stop and do something else.
>
> Good luck and good backups :-)
> Paul

The virus corrupted or destroyed a few system32 files. The virus scanner I
used was a McAfee product and it destroyed everything. I have no record of
the files that are removed!

My XP CD is old, so probably SP1 or no SP. I thought it would be able to
'see' the first partition as it is Fat32 and smaller than 32GB, but I'll
look into this slipstream thing using NLite - thanks Paul.

From: Darklight on 28 Jan 2010 04:25

GT wrote:

> "Darklight" <nglennglen(a)netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:P-ednQ1kWZpNm_3WnZ2dnUVZ7sOdnZ2d(a)bt.com...
>> GT wrote:
>>
>>> Virus attack has 'broken' Windows (my own fault). Boot now fails half
>>> way through Windows XP loading screen - restarts with no warning. Safe
>>> mode is
>>> the same! All my data
>>> files *are* backed up, but I want to avoid the annoyance of
>>> re-configuring
>>> all my XP settings and restoring 700GB of data to my second partition.
>>>
>>> The primary hard disk is 1TB sata. It was partitioned 50GB Fat32 system
>>> C:
>>> with WinXP pro and the rest as data drive D:.
>>>
>>> The partitions and tables are fine, just a few windows system files are
>>> corrupt, but the WinXP install cannot 'see' the partition in order to
>>> repair install - it just sees an empty 137GB drive. I have reduced the
>>> C: to under 32GB (used Ubuntu) to 'please' the windows installer gods,
>>> but the windows installer cannot see it.
>>>
>>> Can anyone suggest a way that I can repair my XP installation on my
>>> primary partition without affecting the secondary partition?
>>
>> why don't you just reinstall the reinstall won't touch the d drive.
>> As you can choose what partition to install to.
>> Or use the repair function. winxp has a repair system when you start the
>> install from cd you can press r key on keyboard to go into repair mode
>> and from there you should be able to repair xp.
>
> Because WinXP CD can't see the partitions - it just sees an empty 137GB
> drive. When I boot on an Ubuntu CD, I can see both partitions and all
> files, so the tables and drives are OK, but something is preventing
> Windows CD from seeing the 31GB primary partition.

This might work. install ubuntu then change the file permisions for the
winxp drive so you can write to it. then install xp to ubunto using
virtualbox then copy the system files from that install to your xp install.

Or find some one with an xp cd and see if that works.

if you have a floppy disk you could use partition magic to check your mbr.

From: GT on 31 Jan 2010 08:10

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