From: Jeff Liebermann on
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:22:40 -0800 (PST), jnkmail009(a)yahoo.com wrote:

>Ok. Got that fixed.
>
>It was the same issue as with the soundcard, multiple entries in
>Device Manager!
>
>For future reference (probably mine!), to get to "unconnected" and
>unused entries:
>
>cmd
>set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1
>start devmgmt.msc
>(Show hidden devices on the View)
>(Delete the ghosts)

Hmmm.... You gave me an idea. The machine I'm using and one of my
laptops are also my test machines, where I plug in random wireless
devices, check if they work, and then either put them back in the box,
or deliver to a customer. If the device came with an
insallation/uninstallation program, I would usually uninstall the
driver.

So, I go unto:
Rt Clik on My Computah -> Properties -> Hardware -> Device Manager
and
View -> show hidden devices
(This is the same as your command line incantations)

It was showing a huge number of ancient devices and duplicates, many
of which are long gone. Some of the duplicates are obvious entries
for the same device, walking through multiple USB ports. My printer
collection is also a mess for similar reasons. Equally irritating
are entries from mulitiple anti-virus products and multiple AVG
versions. What a mess.

MS Windows Installer Cleanup Tool
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc671182.aspx>

Time to do some house cleaning. Thanks for the reminder and have a
nice day after the Day of the Turkeys.

--
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From: John Navas on
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:34:27 -0800 (PST), jnkmail009(a)yahoo.com wrote in
<697dcdee-0286-4561-81f9-bde79d1d8160(a)l42g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>:

>I've been trying, off and on, to troubleshoot this annoyance for a
>while but haven't been successful.
>
>My computers connect to a wireless AP that is attached to a wired
>router. The router provides all DHCP.
>
>Every time I logon to WinXP, the connection "breaks". It doesn't
>"break" right away, but about a minute after logging in. I believe it
>is likely a DHCP issue.
>
>I know for certain that the problem lays somewhere in Windows and not
>my network hardware because my other computers running Linux don't
>"break" their network connections.
>
>This is a clean WinXP computer. There is no junk installed and I'm
>very meticulous about what processes are allowed to run.
>
>I don't know what else to check in Windows.
>
>Any ideas?

Are you sure the initial connection is real and working? Windows XP has
a problem in that it can report an initial connection that doeesn't
actually exist, which then seems to later break.

I haven't fully verified this, but one way it seems to happen is when
Windows XP is shut down or put to sleep or hibernation. Then when
Windows XP wakes up it thinks it's still got a working DHCP lease, but
that lease has been idled out by the wireless access point. Eventually
Windows XP figures out that it doesn't actually have a connection.

Try disconnecting from the wireless before shutting down, sleeping, or
hibernating, and see if that affects the problem when Windows XP start
back up.

Also check your logs to see if some error is being logged when this
happens.
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Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://wireless.navas.us>
John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi>
Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
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