From: Charlie Russel - MVP on
Not always easy to do with an OEM machine, such as those from HP and Dell.
They inevitably have some proprietary, non-standard configuration that makes
it difficult or impossible to put a regular mobo in their system.

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"Zootal" <msnews(a)zootal.nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
>>> > Well I would have though that a motherboard in a system that's hardly
>>> > 6 months old would support 4GB of RAM....guess that's just to much to
>>> > ask though.
>>
>> *shrugs* Well either way....I'm still a bit disappointed about only
>> being able to use 3GB of my RAM. Thanks to everyone that helped, I
>> really appreciate it!!!!!!
>
> Replace your mother board. A good mobo that supports 4GB of ram costs less
> then $100. I'm using a low end Asus M2A-VM, and even that el-cheapo board
> lets me use all 4GB under XP64.
>

From: Zootal on

"Dan" <Danodemano(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 15, 7:45 pm, "Zootal" <msn...(a)zootal.nospam.com> wrote:
>> >> > Well I would have though that a motherboard in a system that's
>> >> > hardly
>> >> > 6 months old would support 4GB of RAM....guess that's just to much
>> >> > to
>> >> > ask though.
>>
>> > *shrugs* Well either way....I'm still a bit disappointed about only
>> > being able to use 3GB of my RAM. Thanks to everyone that helped, I
>> > really appreciate it!!!!!!
>>
>> Replace your mother board. A good mobo that supports 4GB of ram costs
>> less
>> then $100. I'm using a low end Asus M2A-VM, and even that el-cheapo board
>> lets me use all 4GB under XP64.
>
> I would but I'm guessing that's a bit difficult on a laptop ;) Plus,
> until the system is out of warranty, I really don't want to screw with
> it....

Ahh, a laptop - that is a different beast entirely! You are pretty much out
of luck....


From: Dan on
On Dec 15, 8:18 pm, "Zootal" <msn...(a)zootal.nospam.com> wrote:
> "Dan" <Danodem...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:34db74a8-7123-4b23-a06e-097781b9e80c(a)e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Dec 15, 7:45 pm, "Zootal" <msn...(a)zootal.nospam.com> wrote:
> >> >> > Well I would have though that a motherboard in a system that's
> >> >> > hardly
> >> >> > 6 months old would support 4GB of RAM....guess that's just to much
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > ask though.
>
> >> > *shrugs* Well either way....I'm still a bit disappointed about only
> >> > being able to use 3GB of my RAM. Thanks to everyone that helped, I
> >> > really appreciate it!!!!!!
>
> >> Replace your mother board. A good mobo that supports 4GB of ram costs
> >> less
> >> then $100. I'm using a low end Asus M2A-VM, and even that el-cheapo board
> >> lets me use all 4GB under XP64.
>
> > I would but I'm guessing that's a bit difficult on a laptop ;) Plus,
> > until the system is out of warranty, I really don't want to screw with
> > it....
>
> Ahh, a laptop - that is a different beast entirely! You are pretty much out
> of luck....

Yeah....that's kinda the way I'm seeing it....unless a future BIOS
update fixes it.

Also, on a totally unrelated note, the newer Dell stuff uses standard
ATX/MicroATX boards so it's super east to swap. I don't know about
the HP desktops.
From: jorgen on
Dan wrote:

> Yeah....that's kinda the way I'm seeing it....unless a future BIOS
> update fixes it.


A BIOS update won't fix it. The chipset can only do 32-bit addressing,
so there is no way to not have an overlap when you install 4GB RAM

http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/945pm/index.htm
From: Dan on
On Dec 16, 6:27 am, jorgen <na(a)invalid> wrote:
> Dan wrote:
> > Yeah....that's kinda the way I'm seeing it....unless a future BIOS
> > update fixes it.
>
> A BIOS update won't fix it. The chipset can only do 32-bit addressing,
> so there is no way to not have an overlap when you install 4GB RAM
>
> http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/945pm/index.htm

Oh I didn't realize that that chipset could only support 32-bit
address, that explains a lot. Thanks!!!!