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From: Dennis Pack on 19 Dec 2007 22:19 Colin: Is that the problem child you had from day 1 with the LGA775 chipset. I had continual problems with that chipset when the Prescott processor was released because of timing issues between the processor and motherboards. I haven't used an Intel processor since on any of my systems. I haven't had any problems with AMD processors running XP x64 or Vista x64, I've just been in the mood to build a new system trying Intel for a change and comparison. Modifying my budget to build a system isn't a major problem, but every time I see LGA775 chipset on the motherboard or processor I start to have nightmares. Unless you have survived motherboard/processor or motherboard/bios/processor conflicts it's hard to believe that it can happen. Have a great day. -- Dennis Pack XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64 Office Professional Plus 2007 "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(a)msn.com> wrote in message news:44F15929-8A5B-4299-86B5-F302B21BA91A(a)microsoft.com... > Not if, as this particular mobo does, the mobo has a timing flaw affecting > only 64-bit systems. I bought it right after it first came out. The > manufacturer corrected the problem in later revisions of the board but the > first generation boards will bluescreen if booted with a 64-bit OS and 4GB > or more is installed. I will eventually replace it, but I am giving the > boards supporting the new quad-cores some more time to mature before doing > anything about this one. > > "Primo" <prime(a)promo.net> wrote in message > news:47698BE7.8030908(a)promo.net... >> Colin Barnhorst wrote: >>> It's not BS. I have a box with a mobo that refuses to support 4GB ram >>> under Windows x64. It does support 4GB under 32-bit Windows but not >>> 64-bit. It does happen. It is a design flaw and would take a different >>> mobo to fix. >> >> If Windows 32-bit supports 4GB of ram on a motherboard but Windows 64-bit >> does not - on the same motherboard - logic sez that the problem is NOT >> with the motherboard but with Windows 64-bit. Now do us a favor, Colin, >> don't come back and tell us that your Vista Ultimate 64 sees more than 4 >> GB of RAM cause one has nothing to do with the other >
From: Colin Barnhorst on 19 Dec 2007 23:14 Yes. And today I got together with the manager at my local computer store and he is ordering me a mobo and q6600 cpu that can leverage my pc6400 ram I'm using now. He's going to research the mobos to make sure I can use 4GB with Vista x64 on it without issues. I told him to get me into a tried and true mobo, not cutting edge. I'm tired of putting up with it. I expect we'll do the brain transplant right after New Year's. He's a veteran system builder I have dealt with many times. If I try it again I'll outsmart myself again. "Dennis Pack" <dennispack(a)hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message news:76A3B24B-9DE0-4603-A006-D2EA623E9BD7(a)microsoft.com... > Colin: > Is that the problem child you had from day 1 with the LGA775 > chipset. I had continual problems with that chipset when the Prescott > processor was released because of timing issues between the processor and > motherboards. I haven't used an Intel processor since on any of my > systems. I haven't had any problems with AMD processors running XP x64 or > Vista x64, I've just been in the mood to build a new system trying Intel > for a change and comparison. Modifying my budget to build a system isn't a > major problem, but every time I see LGA775 chipset on the motherboard or > processor I start to have nightmares. Unless you have survived > motherboard/processor or motherboard/bios/processor conflicts it's hard to > believe that it can happen. Have a great day. > > -- > Dennis Pack > XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64 > Office Professional Plus 2007 > "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(a)msn.com> wrote in message > news:44F15929-8A5B-4299-86B5-F302B21BA91A(a)microsoft.com... >> Not if, as this particular mobo does, the mobo has a timing flaw >> affecting only 64-bit systems. I bought it right after it first came >> out. The manufacturer corrected the problem in later revisions of the >> board but the first generation boards will bluescreen if booted with a >> 64-bit OS and 4GB or more is installed. I will eventually replace it, >> but I am giving the boards supporting the new quad-cores some more time >> to mature before doing anything about this one. >> >> "Primo" <prime(a)promo.net> wrote in message >> news:47698BE7.8030908(a)promo.net... >>> Colin Barnhorst wrote: >>>> It's not BS. I have a box with a mobo that refuses to support 4GB ram >>>> under Windows x64. It does support 4GB under 32-bit Windows but not >>>> 64-bit. It does happen. It is a design flaw and would take a >>>> different mobo to fix. >>> >>> If Windows 32-bit supports 4GB of ram on a motherboard but Windows >>> 64-bit does not - on the same motherboard - logic sez that the problem >>> is NOT with the motherboard but with Windows 64-bit. Now do us a favor, >>> Colin, don't come back and tell us that your Vista Ultimate 64 sees more >>> than 4 GB of RAM cause one has nothing to do with the other >> >
From: Charlie Russel - MVP on 20 Dec 2007 01:13 Having a local builder is beyond value. I'm on my own, now, but for years and years I had an excellent relationship with a clone shop in the SF Bay Area. Since I was always running beta versions of OSs, having someone who would work with me to find parts and components that we could get to work was worth much. Many's the evening I'd be in their shop until 10 or 11 at night (they closed at 6!) trying yet another video card or SCSI controller or whatever. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(a)msn.com> wrote in message news:ABA45ACB-1DFE-4C2E-B245-975EC4E275BB(a)microsoft.com... > Yes. And today I got together with the manager at my local computer store > and he is ordering me a mobo and q6600 cpu that can leverage my pc6400 ram > I'm using now. He's going to research the mobos to make sure I can use > 4GB with Vista x64 on it without issues. I told him to get me into a > tried and true mobo, not cutting edge. I'm tired of putting up with it. > I expect we'll do the brain transplant right after New Year's. He's a > veteran system builder I have dealt with many times. If I try it again > I'll outsmart myself again. > > "Dennis Pack" <dennispack(a)hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message > news:76A3B24B-9DE0-4603-A006-D2EA623E9BD7(a)microsoft.com... >> Colin: >> Is that the problem child you had from day 1 with the LGA775 >> chipset. I had continual problems with that chipset when the Prescott >> processor was released because of timing issues between the processor and >> motherboards. I haven't used an Intel processor since on any of my >> systems. I haven't had any problems with AMD processors running XP x64 or >> Vista x64, I've just been in the mood to build a new system trying Intel >> for a change and comparison. Modifying my budget to build a system isn't >> a major problem, but every time I see LGA775 chipset on the motherboard >> or processor I start to have nightmares. Unless you have survived >> motherboard/processor or motherboard/bios/processor conflicts it's hard >> to believe that it can happen. Have a great day. >> >> -- >> Dennis Pack >> XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64 >> Office Professional Plus 2007 >> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(a)msn.com> wrote in message >> news:44F15929-8A5B-4299-86B5-F302B21BA91A(a)microsoft.com... >>> Not if, as this particular mobo does, the mobo has a timing flaw >>> affecting only 64-bit systems. I bought it right after it first came >>> out. The manufacturer corrected the problem in later revisions of the >>> board but the first generation boards will bluescreen if booted with a >>> 64-bit OS and 4GB or more is installed. I will eventually replace it, >>> but I am giving the boards supporting the new quad-cores some more time >>> to mature before doing anything about this one. >>> >>> "Primo" <prime(a)promo.net> wrote in message >>> news:47698BE7.8030908(a)promo.net... >>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote: >>>>> It's not BS. I have a box with a mobo that refuses to support 4GB ram >>>>> under Windows x64. It does support 4GB under 32-bit Windows but not >>>>> 64-bit. It does happen. It is a design flaw and would take a >>>>> different mobo to fix. >>>> >>>> If Windows 32-bit supports 4GB of ram on a motherboard but Windows >>>> 64-bit does not - on the same motherboard - logic sez that the problem >>>> is NOT with the motherboard but with Windows 64-bit. Now do us a favor, >>>> Colin, don't come back and tell us that your Vista Ultimate 64 sees >>>> more than 4 GB of RAM cause one has nothing to do with the other >>> >> >
From: Colin Barnhorst on 20 Dec 2007 01:38 Isn't it incredible how those shops accumulate case screws by the barrel? They are like the peanuts at a Texas Roadhouse. "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message news:3B98BF31-A997-4382-89FA-D678BE49AC03(a)microsoft.com... > Having a local builder is beyond value. I'm on my own, now, but for years > and years I had an excellent relationship with a clone shop in the SF Bay > Area. Since I was always running beta versions of OSs, having someone who > would work with me to find parts and components that we could get to work > was worth much. Many's the evening I'd be in their shop until 10 or 11 at > night (they closed at 6!) trying yet another video card or SCSI controller > or whatever. > > -- > Charlie. > http://msmvps.com/xperts64 > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel > > > "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(a)msn.com> wrote in message > news:ABA45ACB-1DFE-4C2E-B245-975EC4E275BB(a)microsoft.com... >> Yes. And today I got together with the manager at my local computer >> store and he is ordering me a mobo and q6600 cpu that can leverage my >> pc6400 ram I'm using now. He's going to research the mobos to make sure >> I can use 4GB with Vista x64 on it without issues. I told him to get me >> into a tried and true mobo, not cutting edge. I'm tired of putting up >> with it. I expect we'll do the brain transplant right after New Year's. >> He's a veteran system builder I have dealt with many times. If I try it >> again I'll outsmart myself again. >> >> "Dennis Pack" <dennispack(a)hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message >> news:76A3B24B-9DE0-4603-A006-D2EA623E9BD7(a)microsoft.com... >>> Colin: >>> Is that the problem child you had from day 1 with the LGA775 >>> chipset. I had continual problems with that chipset when the Prescott >>> processor was released because of timing issues between the processor >>> and motherboards. I haven't used an Intel processor since on any of my >>> systems. I haven't had any problems with AMD processors running XP x64 >>> or Vista x64, I've just been in the mood to build a new system trying >>> Intel for a change and comparison. Modifying my budget to build a system >>> isn't a major problem, but every time I see LGA775 chipset on the >>> motherboard or processor I start to have nightmares. Unless you have >>> survived motherboard/processor or motherboard/bios/processor conflicts >>> it's hard to believe that it can happen. Have a great day. >>> >>> -- >>> Dennis Pack >>> XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64 >>> Office Professional Plus 2007 >>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(a)msn.com> wrote in message >>> news:44F15929-8A5B-4299-86B5-F302B21BA91A(a)microsoft.com... >>>> Not if, as this particular mobo does, the mobo has a timing flaw >>>> affecting only 64-bit systems. I bought it right after it first came >>>> out. The manufacturer corrected the problem in later revisions of the >>>> board but the first generation boards will bluescreen if booted with a >>>> 64-bit OS and 4GB or more is installed. I will eventually replace it, >>>> but I am giving the boards supporting the new quad-cores some more time >>>> to mature before doing anything about this one. >>>> >>>> "Primo" <prime(a)promo.net> wrote in message >>>> news:47698BE7.8030908(a)promo.net... >>>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote: >>>>>> It's not BS. I have a box with a mobo that refuses to support 4GB >>>>>> ram under Windows x64. It does support 4GB under 32-bit Windows but >>>>>> not 64-bit. It does happen. It is a design flaw and would take a >>>>>> different mobo to fix. >>>>> >>>>> If Windows 32-bit supports 4GB of ram on a motherboard but Windows >>>>> 64-bit does not - on the same motherboard - logic sez that the problem >>>>> is NOT with the motherboard but with Windows 64-bit. Now do us a >>>>> favor, Colin, don't come back and tell us that your Vista Ultimate 64 >>>>> sees more than 4 GB of RAM cause one has nothing to do with the other >>>> >>> >> >
From: Charlie Russel - MVP on 20 Dec 2007 15:18
Yup. And all those little case blanks that hide the PCI slots? I can NEVER find one here when I need one. But they had them by the gross lying around -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(a)msn.com> wrote in message news:EEB1079C-94B8-47FA-A195-9601DECEA08F(a)microsoft.com... > Isn't it incredible how those shops accumulate case screws by the barrel? > They are like the peanuts at a Texas Roadhouse. > > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message > news:3B98BF31-A997-4382-89FA-D678BE49AC03(a)microsoft.com... >> Having a local builder is beyond value. I'm on my own, now, but for years >> and years I had an excellent relationship with a clone shop in the SF Bay >> Area. Since I was always running beta versions of OSs, having someone who >> would work with me to find parts and components that we could get to work >> was worth much. Many's the evening I'd be in their shop until 10 or 11 at >> night (they closed at 6!) trying yet another video card or SCSI >> controller or whatever. >> >> -- >> Charlie. >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64 >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel >> >> >> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(a)msn.com> wrote in message >> news:ABA45ACB-1DFE-4C2E-B245-975EC4E275BB(a)microsoft.com... >>> Yes. And today I got together with the manager at my local computer >>> store and he is ordering me a mobo and q6600 cpu that can leverage my >>> pc6400 ram I'm using now. He's going to research the mobos to make sure >>> I can use 4GB with Vista x64 on it without issues. I told him to get me >>> into a tried and true mobo, not cutting edge. I'm tired of putting up >>> with it. I expect we'll do the brain transplant right after New Year's. >>> He's a veteran system builder I have dealt with many times. If I try it >>> again I'll outsmart myself again. >>> >>> "Dennis Pack" <dennispack(a)hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message >>> news:76A3B24B-9DE0-4603-A006-D2EA623E9BD7(a)microsoft.com... >>>> Colin: >>>> Is that the problem child you had from day 1 with the LGA775 >>>> chipset. I had continual problems with that chipset when the Prescott >>>> processor was released because of timing issues between the processor >>>> and motherboards. I haven't used an Intel processor since on any of my >>>> systems. I haven't had any problems with AMD processors running XP x64 >>>> or Vista x64, I've just been in the mood to build a new system trying >>>> Intel for a change and comparison. Modifying my budget to build a >>>> system isn't a major problem, but every time I see LGA775 chipset on >>>> the motherboard or processor I start to have nightmares. Unless you >>>> have survived motherboard/processor or motherboard/bios/processor >>>> conflicts it's hard to believe that it can happen. Have a great day. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dennis Pack >>>> XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64 >>>> Office Professional Plus 2007 >>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(a)msn.com> wrote in message >>>> news:44F15929-8A5B-4299-86B5-F302B21BA91A(a)microsoft.com... >>>>> Not if, as this particular mobo does, the mobo has a timing flaw >>>>> affecting only 64-bit systems. I bought it right after it first came >>>>> out. The manufacturer corrected the problem in later revisions of the >>>>> board but the first generation boards will bluescreen if booted with a >>>>> 64-bit OS and 4GB or more is installed. I will eventually replace it, >>>>> but I am giving the boards supporting the new quad-cores some more >>>>> time to mature before doing anything about this one. >>>>> >>>>> "Primo" <prime(a)promo.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:47698BE7.8030908(a)promo.net... >>>>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote: >>>>>>> It's not BS. I have a box with a mobo that refuses to support 4GB >>>>>>> ram under Windows x64. It does support 4GB under 32-bit Windows but >>>>>>> not 64-bit. It does happen. It is a design flaw and would take a >>>>>>> different mobo to fix. >>>>>> >>>>>> If Windows 32-bit supports 4GB of ram on a motherboard but Windows >>>>>> 64-bit does not - on the same motherboard - logic sez that the >>>>>> problem is NOT with the motherboard but with Windows 64-bit. Now do >>>>>> us a favor, Colin, don't come back and tell us that your Vista >>>>>> Ultimate 64 sees more than 4 GB of RAM cause one has nothing to do >>>>>> with the other >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > |