From: harry.wj on
Hi Rico

Nope, no viruses or malware on either laptop or PC.

Harry

"Rico" <rico_001(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:UqfPf.7565$l7.2497(a)bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> In article <IoCdnYSXQqvLk5HZnZ2dnUVZ8qCdnZ2d(a)eclipse.net.uk>, "harry.wj"
> <harry(a)wj.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>>Hi Rico
>>
>>> What website are we trying to visit here when this happens?
>>
>>Google/Firefox start page:
>>http://www.google.co.uk/firefox?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
>>.
>>
>>But it happens whenever I try to acces any webpage.
>
> Have you checked this computer for malware (adware/virus) this certificate
> thing sounds a lot like some piece of software is trying to 'phone home'
> and install something on your computer?
>>
>>Harry
>>
>>"Rico" <rico_001(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:P3FOf.5110$c76.4653(a)bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>>> In article <bf6dnbs_ZdHwI5TZRVny0A(a)eclipse.net.uk>, "harry.wj"
>>> <harry(a)wj.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>Hi Rico
>>>>
>>>>I reset my ST585 to its factory defaults. I immediately enabled the
>>>>firewall
>>>>to standard protection so I wouldn't leave moth my PC and the laptop
>>>>exposed. With encryption disabled (the router's default setting) I
>>>>booted
>>>>the laptop and its AV software (AVG free which was installed well prior
>>>>to
>>>>the current problem starting) immediately updated and I could connect to
>>>>the
>>>>web no problem. No, no new software whatsoever was installed on the
>>>>laptop
>>>>between time of working and not working. Everything was going fine, my
>>>>daughter went for her usual surf on her bookmarked sites, she doesn't
>>>>know
>>>>how to install software anyway, she shut down the laptop the proper way
>>>>as
>>>>I've instructed her, and the next time someone booted it up and
>>>>attempted
>>>>to
>>>>go onto the web we get this "Windows was unable to find a
>>>>certificate..."
>>>>problem. There is no software firewall on either my PC or the laptop as
>>>>I
>>>>only use the router's firewall.
>>>>
>>>>Ok, what now?
>>>>
>>>>Harry
>>>>
>>>
>>> What website are we trying to visit here when this happens?
>>>
>>>>"Rico" <rico_001(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:Z11Of.815$s8.394(a)bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>>>>> In article <fc-dnYCPeL-iDZrZRVnyrg(a)eclipse.net.uk>, "harry.wj"
>>>>> <harry(a)wj.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>Hi Rico
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Windows is controlling everything. I'm using XP Pro SP2 fully updated
>>>>>>on
>>>>>>both laptop and PC. The laptop is a split new Dell Inspiron 6000, and
>>>>>>has
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller and an Intel(R)
>>>>>>PRO/Wireless
>>>>>>2200BG Network Connection installed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I suspect you may suggest switching to allowing the vendor software to
>>>>>>control the wireless connection instead of Windows, but Windows was
>>>>>>controlling the connection and it was working fine for about 1-2 weeks
>>>>>>then
>>>>>>this problem just appeared suddenly. Would switching what controls the
>>>>>>connection make a difference?
>>>>>
>>>>> No, Windows Zero Config tool ought to be able to handle this just
>>>>> fine.
>>>>> I've found broadcom's software to be a problem in my laptop so I
>>>>> disabled
>>>>> it and on use the Window tool
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks again for replying. While I'm tearing my hair out here, I'm
>>>>>>getting
>>>>>>zero feedback from folks out there on 4 forums and 5 newsgroups I've
>>>>>>tried,
>>>>>>so your interest is gratefully received:-) I'm a total newcomer to all
>>>>>>this
>>>>>>wireless shared internet connection stuff and I'm finding it a tough
>>>>>>slog
>>>>>>up
>>>>>>this near vertical learning curve.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok this is a slow way to handle this, but let's make sure we are all
>>>>> together.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's do this, reset (not reboot, but reset -see owners manual) the
>>>>> router
>>>>> to factory defaults not just WPA key, everything back to the way it
>>>>> came
>>>>> out of the box. Once that is done again with all encryption turned off
>>>>> make
>>>>> sure the laptop can connect.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also just so I'm sure where we are, no new software has recently
>>>>> (between
>>>>> time of working and not working) been installed on the laptop? No
>>>>> virus
>>>>> software or firewalls?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Harry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Rico" <rico_001(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:dvENf.168$l7.159(a)bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>> In article <wIadnbZ9MOZRg5vZnZ2dnUVZ8qKdnZ2d(a)eclipse.net.uk>,
>>>>>>> "harry.wj"
>>>>>>> <harry(a)wj.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>Hi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks for replying. I turned off the encrytpion and I can access
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>internet on the laptop fine. It's only when I have encryption on
>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>get
>>>>>>>>the "Windows was unable to find a certificate..." problem. I had
>>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>problem when I initially tried to set up this shared internet
>>>>>>>>connection,
>>>>>>>>but solved it when I put a 64 character WPA hex instead of the
>>>>>>>>router's
>>>>>>>>default 10 charcter WPA key that was printed on the underside of the
>>>>>>>>router.
>>>>>>>>This seems like a similar problem, although this time I am inoutting
>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>64
>>>>>>>>character WPA hex into the router and the laptop and it it now not
>>>>>>>>going
>>>>>>>>according to plan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmm, and what you are getting is a 'certificate' (that word in the
>>>>>>> error
>>>>>>> message) error? How are you controling the wireless card in the
>>>>>>> laptop?
>>>>>>> What I mean is, are you using Windows Zero Config set up or is there
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> vendor supplied tool? What version of Windows is in play here?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Harry
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Rico" <rico_001(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:I1mNf.52473$bW.32815(a)bignews8.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>>> In article <sLWdnXwaBoXzA5nZnZ2dnUVZ8qGdnZ2d(a)eclipse.net.uk>,
>>>>>>>>> "harry.wj"
>>>>>>>>> <harry(a)wj.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>I have had a wireless network set up between a laptop and my PC
>>>>>>>>>>which
>>>>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>worked smoothly for a couple of weeks. Today when I booted up the
>>>>>>>>>>laptop
>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>got the message "Windows was unable to find a certificate to log
>>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>into
>>>>>>>>>>the network " on top of my sys tray icon which now has a yellow
>>>>>>>>>>triangle
>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>exclamation mark on it!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I browsed about and discovered this was something to do with
>>>>>>>>>>encryption.
>>>>>>>>>>Up
>>>>>>>>>>until this problem occuring I hadn't changed any of my router's
>>>>>>>>>>(SpeedTouch
>>>>>>>>>>585) settings whatsoever or on the laptop. I tried putting in a
>>>>>>>>>>brand
>>>>>>>>>>new
>>>>>>>>>>WPA-PSK key into the router then put it into the laptop, but still
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>same
>>>>>>>>>>problem happens. I don't know is this is related but when I input
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>new
>>>>>>>>>>key into the laptop in Wireless Network Connection
>>>>>>>>>>Properties>wireless
>>>>>>>>>>networks>properties>association hit ok then return to that window
>>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>gone back to the router's default key, a 10 digit key which
>>>>>>>>>>doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>work.
>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>also tried to repair the connection but that hasn't worked either.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I also read that if, in the network properties>authentication, the
>>>>>>>>>>"enable
>>>>>>>>>>IEEE 802.1x authentication for this network" box is enabled it can
>>>>>>>>>>lead
>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>connection problems. But it is unchecked. In fact, even if I
>>>>>>>>>>wanted
>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>enable it I can't because the entire box is greyed out. Can
>>>>>>>>>>someone
>>>>>>>>>>verify
>>>>>>>>>>if this is where I can fix the problem, how this window came to be
>>>>>>>>>>greyed
>>>>>>>>>>out and how to fix it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>So how has this problem occurred and how do I fix it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Help gratefully received.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Harry
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Turn off encryption and get back to us with the results.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
>>
>>
>
> fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.


From: Rico on
In article <srydna08DofEu5PZRVnyiA(a)eclipse.net.uk>, "harry.wj" <harry(a)wj.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>Hi Rico
>
>Nope, no viruses or malware on either laptop or PC.

Then I'm just stumped, rephrase your basic question (subject line) and see
if someone else with more knowledge then me can jump in.
>
>Harry
>
>"Rico" <rico_001(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:UqfPf.7565$l7.2497(a)bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>> In article <IoCdnYSXQqvLk5HZnZ2dnUVZ8qCdnZ2d(a)eclipse.net.uk>, "harry.wj"
>> <harry(a)wj.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>>>Hi Rico
>>>
>>>> What website are we trying to visit here when this happens?
>>>
>>>Google/Firefox start page:
>>>http://www.google.co.uk/firefox?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:offici
>al
>>>.
>>>
>>>But it happens whenever I try to acces any webpage.
>>
>> Have you checked this computer for malware (adware/virus) this certificate
>> thing sounds a lot like some piece of software is trying to 'phone home'
>> and install something on your computer?
>>>
>>>Harry
>>>
>>>"Rico" <rico_001(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:P3FOf.5110$c76.4653(a)bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>>>> In article <bf6dnbs_ZdHwI5TZRVny0A(a)eclipse.net.uk>, "harry.wj"
>>>> <harry(a)wj.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>Hi Rico
>>>>>
>>>>>I reset my ST585 to its factory defaults. I immediately enabled the
>>>>>firewall
>>>>>to standard protection so I wouldn't leave moth my PC and the laptop
>>>>>exposed. With encryption disabled (the router's default setting) I
>>>>>booted
>>>>>the laptop and its AV software (AVG free which was installed well prior
>>>>>to
>>>>>the current problem starting) immediately updated and I could connect to
>>>>>the
>>>>>web no problem. No, no new software whatsoever was installed on the
>>>>>laptop
>>>>>between time of working and not working. Everything was going fine, my
>>>>>daughter went for her usual surf on her bookmarked sites, she doesn't
>>>>>know
>>>>>how to install software anyway, she shut down the laptop the proper way
>>>>>as
>>>>>I've instructed her, and the next time someone booted it up and
>>>>>attempted
>>>>>to
>>>>>go onto the web we get this "Windows was unable to find a
>>>>>certificate..."
>>>>>problem. There is no software firewall on either my PC or the laptop as
>>>>>I
>>>>>only use the router's firewall.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ok, what now?
>>>>>
>>>>>Harry
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What website are we trying to visit here when this happens?
>>>>
>>>>>"Rico" <rico_001(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:Z11Of.815$s8.394(a)bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>> In article <fc-dnYCPeL-iDZrZRVnyrg(a)eclipse.net.uk>, "harry.wj"
>>>>>> <harry(a)wj.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>Hi Rico
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Windows is controlling everything. I'm using XP Pro SP2 fully updated
>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>both laptop and PC. The laptop is a split new Dell Inspiron 6000, and
>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller and an Intel(R)
>>>>>>>PRO/Wireless
>>>>>>>2200BG Network Connection installed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I suspect you may suggest switching to allowing the vendor software to
>>>>>>>control the wireless connection instead of Windows, but Windows was
>>>>>>>controlling the connection and it was working fine for about 1-2 weeks
>>>>>>>then
>>>>>>>this problem just appeared suddenly. Would switching what controls the
>>>>>>>connection make a difference?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, Windows Zero Config tool ought to be able to handle this just
>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>> I've found broadcom's software to be a problem in my laptop so I
>>>>>> disabled
>>>>>> it and on use the Window tool
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks again for replying. While I'm tearing my hair out here, I'm
>>>>>>>getting
>>>>>>>zero feedback from folks out there on 4 forums and 5 newsgroups I've
>>>>>>>tried,
>>>>>>>so your interest is gratefully received:-) I'm a total newcomer to all
>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>wireless shared internet connection stuff and I'm finding it a tough
>>>>>>>slog
>>>>>>>up
>>>>>>>this near vertical learning curve.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok this is a slow way to handle this, but let's make sure we are all
>>>>>> together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's do this, reset (not reboot, but reset -see owners manual) the
>>>>>> router
>>>>>> to factory defaults not just WPA key, everything back to the way it
>>>>>> came
>>>>>> out of the box. Once that is done again with all encryption turned off
>>>>>> make
>>>>>> sure the laptop can connect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also just so I'm sure where we are, no new software has recently
>>>>>> (between
>>>>>> time of working and not working) been installed on the laptop? No
>>>>>> virus
>>>>>> software or firewalls?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Harry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Rico" <rico_001(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:dvENf.168$l7.159(a)bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>> In article <wIadnbZ9MOZRg5vZnZ2dnUVZ8qKdnZ2d(a)eclipse.net.uk>,
>>>>>>>> "harry.wj"
>>>>>>>> <harry(a)wj.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>Hi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks for replying. I turned off the encrytpion and I can access
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>internet on the laptop fine. It's only when I have encryption on
>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>get
>>>>>>>>>the "Windows was unable to find a certificate..." problem. I had
>>>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>problem when I initially tried to set up this shared internet
>>>>>>>>>connection,
>>>>>>>>>but solved it when I put a 64 character WPA hex instead of the
>>>>>>>>>router's
>>>>>>>>>default 10 charcter WPA key that was printed on the underside of the
>>>>>>>>>router.
>>>>>>>>>This seems like a similar problem, although this time I am inoutting
>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>64
>>>>>>>>>character WPA hex into the router and the laptop and it it now not
>>>>>>>>>going
>>>>>>>>>according to plan.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hmm, and what you are getting is a 'certificate' (that word in the
>>>>>>>> error
>>>>>>>> message) error? How are you controling the wireless card in the
>>>>>>>> laptop?
>>>>>>>> What I mean is, are you using Windows Zero Config set up or is there
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> vendor supplied tool? What version of Windows is in play here?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Harry
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Rico" <rico_001(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:I1mNf.52473$bW.32815(a)bignews8.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>>>> In article <sLWdnXwaBoXzA5nZnZ2dnUVZ8qGdnZ2d(a)eclipse.net.uk>,
>>>>>>>>>> "harry.wj"
>>>>>>>>>> <harry(a)wj.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>I have had a wireless network set up between a laptop and my PC
>>>>>>>>>>>which
>>>>>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>>worked smoothly for a couple of weeks. Today when I booted up the
>>>>>>>>>>>laptop
>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>got the message "Windows was unable to find a certificate to log
>>>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>into
>>>>>>>>>>>the network " on top of my sys tray icon which now has a yellow
>>>>>>>>>>>triangle
>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>exclamation mark on it!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I browsed about and discovered this was something to do with
>>>>>>>>>>>encryption.
>>>>>>>>>>>Up
>>>>>>>>>>>until this problem occuring I hadn't changed any of my router's
>>>>>>>>>>>(SpeedTouch
>>>>>>>>>>>585) settings whatsoever or on the laptop. I tried putting in a
>>>>>>>>>>>brand
>>>>>>>>>>>new
>>>>>>>>>>>WPA-PSK key into the router then put it into the laptop, but still
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>same
>>>>>>>>>>>problem happens. I don't know is this is related but when I input
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>new
>>>>>>>>>>>key into the laptop in Wireless Network Connection
>>>>>>>>>>>Properties>wireless
>>>>>>>>>>>networks>properties>association hit ok then return to that window
>>>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>>gone back to the router's default key, a 10 digit key which
>>>>>>>>>>>doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>work.
>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>also tried to repair the connection but that hasn't worked either.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I also read that if, in the network properties>authentication, the
>>>>>>>>>>>"enable
>>>>>>>>>>>IEEE 802.1x authentication for this network" box is enabled it can
>>>>>>>>>>>lead
>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>connection problems. But it is unchecked. In fact, even if I
>>>>>>>>>>>wanted
>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>enable it I can't because the entire box is greyed out. Can
>>>>>>>>>>>someone
>>>>>>>>>>>verify
>>>>>>>>>>>if this is where I can fix the problem, how this window came to be
>>>>>>>>>>>greyed
>>>>>>>>>>>out and how to fix it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>So how has this problem occurred and how do I fix it?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Help gratefully received.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Harry
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Turn off encryption and get back to us with the results.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
>
>

fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
From: harry.wj on
Hi Rico

Ok. Thanks for trying. I've re-posted with a different subject. Hopefully
someone will pick it up.

Harry

"Rico" <rico_001(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ujHPf.72$R7.14(a)bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> In article <srydna08DofEu5PZRVnyiA(a)eclipse.net.uk>, "harry.wj"
> <harry(a)wj.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>>Hi Rico
>>
>>Nope, no viruses or malware on either laptop or PC.
>
> Then I'm just stumped, rephrase your basic question (subject line) and see
> if someone else with more knowledge then me can jump in.
>>
>>Harry
>>
>>"Rico" <rico_001(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:UqfPf.7565$l7.2497(a)bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>>> In article <IoCdnYSXQqvLk5HZnZ2dnUVZ8qCdnZ2d(a)eclipse.net.uk>, "harry.wj"
>>> <harry(a)wj.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>Hi Rico
>>>>
>>>>> What website are we trying to visit here when this happens?
>>>>
>>>>Google/Firefox start page:
>>>>http://www.google.co.uk/firefox?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:offici
>>al
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>>But it happens whenever I try to acces any webpage.
>>>
>>> Have you checked this computer for malware (adware/virus) this
>>> certificate
>>> thing sounds a lot like some piece of software is trying to 'phone home'
>>> and install something on your computer?
>>>>
>>>>Harry
>>>>
>>>>"Rico" <rico_001(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:P3FOf.5110$c76.4653(a)bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>>>>> In article <bf6dnbs_ZdHwI5TZRVny0A(a)eclipse.net.uk>, "harry.wj"
>>>>> <harry(a)wj.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>Hi Rico
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I reset my ST585 to its factory defaults. I immediately enabled the
>>>>>>firewall
>>>>>>to standard protection so I wouldn't leave moth my PC and the laptop
>>>>>>exposed. With encryption disabled (the router's default setting) I
>>>>>>booted
>>>>>>the laptop and its AV software (AVG free which was installed well
>>>>>>prior
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>the current problem starting) immediately updated and I could connect
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>web no problem. No, no new software whatsoever was installed on the
>>>>>>laptop
>>>>>>between time of working and not working. Everything was going fine, my
>>>>>>daughter went for her usual surf on her bookmarked sites, she doesn't
>>>>>>know
>>>>>>how to install software anyway, she shut down the laptop the proper
>>>>>>way
>>>>>>as
>>>>>>I've instructed her, and the next time someone booted it up and
>>>>>>attempted
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>go onto the web we get this "Windows was unable to find a
>>>>>>certificate..."
>>>>>>problem. There is no software firewall on either my PC or the laptop
>>>>>>as
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>only use the router's firewall.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ok, what now?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Harry
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What website are we trying to visit here when this happens?
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Rico" <rico_001(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:Z11Of.815$s8.394(a)bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>> In article <fc-dnYCPeL-iDZrZRVnyrg(a)eclipse.net.uk>, "harry.wj"
>>>>>>> <harry(a)wj.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>Hi Rico
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Windows is controlling everything. I'm using XP Pro SP2 fully
>>>>>>>>updated
>>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>both laptop and PC. The laptop is a split new Dell Inspiron 6000,
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller and an Intel(R)
>>>>>>>>PRO/Wireless
>>>>>>>>2200BG Network Connection installed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I suspect you may suggest switching to allowing the vendor software
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>control the wireless connection instead of Windows, but Windows was
>>>>>>>>controlling the connection and it was working fine for about 1-2
>>>>>>>>weeks
>>>>>>>>then
>>>>>>>>this problem just appeared suddenly. Would switching what controls
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>connection make a difference?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, Windows Zero Config tool ought to be able to handle this just
>>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>> I've found broadcom's software to be a problem in my laptop so I
>>>>>>> disabled
>>>>>>> it and on use the Window tool
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks again for replying. While I'm tearing my hair out here, I'm
>>>>>>>>getting
>>>>>>>>zero feedback from folks out there on 4 forums and 5 newsgroups I've
>>>>>>>>tried,
>>>>>>>>so your interest is gratefully received:-) I'm a total newcomer to
>>>>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>wireless shared internet connection stuff and I'm finding it a tough
>>>>>>>>slog
>>>>>>>>up
>>>>>>>>this near vertical learning curve.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok this is a slow way to handle this, but let's make sure we are all
>>>>>>> together.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's do this, reset (not reboot, but reset -see owners manual) the
>>>>>>> router
>>>>>>> to factory defaults not just WPA key, everything back to the way it
>>>>>>> came
>>>>>>> out of the box. Once that is done again with all encryption turned
>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>> sure the laptop can connect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also just so I'm sure where we are, no new software has recently
>>>>>>> (between
>>>>>>> time of working and not working) been installed on the laptop? No
>>>>>>> virus
>>>>>>> software or firewalls?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Harry
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Rico" <rico_001(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:dvENf.168$l7.159(a)bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>>> In article <wIadnbZ9MOZRg5vZnZ2dnUVZ8qKdnZ2d(a)eclipse.net.uk>,
>>>>>>>>> "harry.wj"
>>>>>>>>> <harry(a)wj.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>Hi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks for replying. I turned off the encrytpion and I can access
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>internet on the laptop fine. It's only when I have encryption on
>>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>get
>>>>>>>>>>the "Windows was unable to find a certificate..." problem. I had
>>>>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>>problem when I initially tried to set up this shared internet
>>>>>>>>>>connection,
>>>>>>>>>>but solved it when I put a 64 character WPA hex instead of the
>>>>>>>>>>router's
>>>>>>>>>>default 10 charcter WPA key that was printed on the underside of
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>router.
>>>>>>>>>>This seems like a similar problem, although this time I am
>>>>>>>>>>inoutting
>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>64
>>>>>>>>>>character WPA hex into the router and the laptop and it it now not
>>>>>>>>>>going
>>>>>>>>>>according to plan.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hmm, and what you are getting is a 'certificate' (that word in the
>>>>>>>>> error
>>>>>>>>> message) error? How are you controling the wireless card in the
>>>>>>>>> laptop?
>>>>>>>>> What I mean is, are you using Windows Zero Config set up or is
>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> vendor supplied tool? What version of Windows is in play here?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Harry
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Rico" <rico_001(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>news:I1mNf.52473$bW.32815(a)bignews8.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <sLWdnXwaBoXzA5nZnZ2dnUVZ8qGdnZ2d(a)eclipse.net.uk>,
>>>>>>>>>>> "harry.wj"
>>>>>>>>>>> <harry(a)wj.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>I have had a wireless network set up between a laptop and my PC
>>>>>>>>>>>>which
>>>>>>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>>>worked smoothly for a couple of weeks. Today when I booted up
>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>laptop
>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>got the message "Windows was unable to find a certificate to log
>>>>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>into
>>>>>>>>>>>>the network " on top of my sys tray icon which now has a yellow
>>>>>>>>>>>>triangle
>>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>exclamation mark on it!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I browsed about and discovered this was something to do with
>>>>>>>>>>>>encryption.
>>>>>>>>>>>>Up
>>>>>>>>>>>>until this problem occuring I hadn't changed any of my router's
>>>>>>>>>>>>(SpeedTouch
>>>>>>>>>>>>585) settings whatsoever or on the laptop. I tried putting in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>brand
>>>>>>>>>>>>new
>>>>>>>>>>>>WPA-PSK key into the router then put it into the laptop, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>still
>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>same
>>>>>>>>>>>>problem happens. I don't know is this is related but when I
>>>>>>>>>>>>input
>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>new
>>>>>>>>>>>>key into the laptop in Wireless Network Connection
>>>>>>>>>>>>Properties>wireless
>>>>>>>>>>>>networks>properties>association hit ok then return to that
>>>>>>>>>>>>window
>>>>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>>>gone back to the router's default key, a 10 digit key which
>>>>>>>>>>>>doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>also tried to repair the connection but that hasn't worked
>>>>>>>>>>>>either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I also read that if, in the network properties>authentication,
>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>"enable
>>>>>>>>>>>>IEEE 802.1x authentication for this network" box is enabled it
>>>>>>>>>>>>can
>>>>>>>>>>>>lead
>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>connection problems. But it is unchecked. In fact, even if I
>>>>>>>>>>>>wanted
>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>enable it I can't because the entire box is greyed out. Can
>>>>>>>>>>>>someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>verify
>>>>>>>>>>>>if this is where I can fix the problem, how this window came to
>>>>>>>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>>>>>greyed
>>>>>>>>>>>>out and how to fix it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>So how has this problem occurred and how do I fix it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Help gratefully received.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Harry
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Turn off encryption and get back to us with the results.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
>>
>>
>
> fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.