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From: Lew Pitcher on 13 Nov 2009 17:20 On November 13, 2009 17:09, in alt.os.linux.slackware, john(a)wexfordpress.com (john(a)wexfordpress.com) wrote: > On Nov 13, 4:54Â pm, Lew Pitcher <lewpitc...(a)lewpitcher.ca> wrote: >> j...(a)wexfordpress.com <j...(a)wexfordpress.com> trolled: >> >> > Is Wine still the preferred way to run Windows programs in Slackware? >> > I had it up years ago but never got much past Solitaire. Is there a >> > better program today? >> >> Windows, itself, is a far better platform for running windows apps >> than linux will ever be. >> >> You seem to have the problem backwards. Â You run the OS that the >> best program for your purpose demands. Â There is nothing wrong with >> windows. Â And, since there are so many apps you need windows to run, >> you should have a windows standalone or at least a dual-boot around >> at all times. >> >> Other than that, look at vmware. >> >> Lew Pitcher >> -- >> Read Lew Pitcher's official biography athttp://lewpitcher.ca >> >> See you there! > > I have a Windows XP partition up. The app that I need is Pub-assist, > an accounting program. It would be > a bore to reboot every time a transaction occurred. All the other > programs I use regularly are FOSS. > > I will look at vmware. Surprisingly, RM's advice is pretty good. Yes, if you have a tool that you must use, and it only runs under Microsoft Windows, then you probably should run it under Microsoft Windows. VMWare is one choice, but you'll probably find it expensive. You could also try Qemu or Virtualbox; both virtualization environments work well in Slackware, and Windows hardly notices the differences. -- Lew Pitcher Master Codewright & JOAT-in-training | Registered Linux User #112576 Me: http://pitcher.digitalfreehold.ca/ | Just Linux: http://justlinux.ca/ ---------- Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing. ------
From: Douglas Mayne on 13 Nov 2009 17:32 On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:49:17 -0800, john(a)wexfordpress.com wrote: > Is Wine still the preferred way to run Windows programs in Slackware? > I had it up years ago but never got much past Solitaire. Is there a > better program today? > > John Culleton > I think the best compatibility is still virtualization, not wine. However, Windows requires licenses ($), etc. while wine does not. There is a script called winetricks that can be to used to attempt to get critical programs to help provide more libraries. However, some programs defy any amount of "tricks", and refuse to be installed. The programs which work, really do work very well though. It's a bit too uneven for my taste. I would opt for virtualization. I have only briefly tested VirtualBox- I have mostly used VMWare. VMWare's latest releases seem to be working much better. For a while, some combinations of hardware and Linux kernels proved to be painful. too. As of now, I have tested VMware Player 3.0 and VMWare Server 2.0.2 on Slackware 12.2 with kernel 2.6.30.8. (BTW, I recommend using a kernel version >= 2.6.30.8. YMMV. Be aware that there is a community patch which must still be applied to get VMWare server's modules to compile correctly and work with those kernels. Slackware 13.0 comes with kernel 2.6.29.6, which isn't quite fixed- YMMV.) One other nice thing about virtualization is that it encapsulates the guest environment nicely. wine installs a .wine directory which attempts to do the same thing, but is less than ideal (IMO). -- Douglas Mayne
From: Keith Keller on 13 Nov 2009 19:29 On 2009-11-13, Lew Pitcher <lpitcher(a)teksavvy.com> wrote: > > VMWare is one choice, but you'll probably find it expensive. I thought that certain flavors of VMWare were now free (as in beer). VirtualBox is also free, and I like it very much (though I've only used it for linux guests, not Windows). --keith -- kkeller-usenet(a)wombat.san-francisco.ca.us (try just my userid to email me) AOLSFAQ=http://www.therockgarden.ca/aolsfaq.txt see X- headers for PGP signature information
From: Lew Pitcher on 13 Nov 2009 19:41 On November 13, 2009 19:29, in alt.os.linux.slackware, Keith Keller (kkeller-usenet(a)wombat.san-francisco.ca.us) wrote: > On 2009-11-13, Lew Pitcher <lpitcher(a)teksavvy.com> wrote: >> >> VMWare is one choice, but you'll probably find it expensive. > > I thought that certain flavors of VMWare were now free (as in beer). Perhaps I am wrong, but isn't the VMWare "server" (the part that builds system images) a for-purchase-only program? I believe that the "client" (the part that runs the system images) is freeware. > VirtualBox is also free, and I like it very much (though I've only used > it for linux guests, not Windows). I've used Qemu for years, both for Linux and Windows. I've got Qemu images stashed away for Windows 3.1, Windows 95, Windows 98 and Windows XP. If I need an installation, I pull out the correct image, and make a copy-on-write volume with it. That way, I can keep a pristine installation image, /and/ have a "working set" volume, with little additional cost. -- Lew Pitcher Master Codewright & JOAT-in-training | Registered Linux User #112576 Me: http://pitcher.digitalfreehold.ca/ | Just Linux: http://justlinux.ca/ ---------- Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing. ------
From: jr4412 on 13 Nov 2009 20:21
On 14 Nov, 00:41, Lew Pitcher <lpitc...(a)teksavvy.com> wrote: > Perhaps I am wrong, but isn't the VMWare "server" (the part that builds > system images) a for-purchase-only program? I believe that the "client" > (the part that runs the system images) is freeware. vmserver2 is free, you have to buy vmware esx server. jr |