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From: salman on 30 Dec 2009 15:36 >On May 15, 4:00=A0pm, John McCaskill <jhmccask...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Xilinx has switched to using FlexLM for licensing as of ISE 11.1. =A0I >> have been using multiple other software packages that use FlexLM for >> years, so I have some experience with the issues that it can cause. >> FlexLM is more restrictive than just giving you an activation ID, and >> I expect that they will be getting a lot of calls from customers about >> this. =A0However, after evaluating how Xilinx has used FlexLM, I think >> that some of your issues above have been addressed in a reasonable >> fashion, and I think that some of their licensing terms have been made >> more favorable for the customer. > >I've dealt with FlexLm in the past, and I've learned to curse its very >existence when the license server, typically in an inaccessible >location, goes down. This always happened on a weekend with a looming >Monday-morning deadline. > >But all that aside, after all these years, Xilinx still doesn't get >it. We use their software to develop applications FOR THEIR CHIPS. >There is no other use for it. Locking it down and otherwise making it >difficult to install and use is at cross purposes with Xilinx' >objectives: selling chips. > >Now I understand that there is a real cost for technical support. What >Xilinx needs to do is to uncouple tech support from the cost of the >tools. To wit: > >a) If you are a hobbyist and you want to play with a starter kit or >whatever, use the tools and use the various WWW resources for support. >You don't get a tech-support account and Xilinx won't answer your >phone calls. > >b) The professional user should be able to choose between per-incident >and blanket yearly tech-support options. Perhaps two tiers of support >should be available -- initial WebCase, and direct-to-smart-people >telephone support. The point is that if we are paying directly for the >support, we expect REAL results and not the usual web-case runarounds. > >c) In either case, any user (from the hobbyist to the pro) should be >able to report bugs and get updates on their resolutions. Xilinx >should not cut off a source of bug reports simply because the users >aren't paying for support. > >As it is now, users who buy ISE/EDK etc spend a lot of money and don't >get any real support, and this latest licensing nonsense is a kick in >the teeth. > >-a > Amen to that. We use Xilinx at NASA and I am having so many problems using the new software 11.1 with the floating license. I am going to downgrade to 10.1. I liked Xilinx over Altera even more because of the node-locked licensing and the fact that they make money from their chips. Now, they are following the same route as Altera. Sell h/w...give s/w free. Support pay..bug fixes free. Salman |