From: Peter Foldes on
Dave

Why are you answering FTR. Please stop the copy\paste routine and then inserting it
in a new post which is completely out of place in this thread and makes no sense at
all. If needed start a new post or better still do not start any posts

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"~BD~" <BoaterDave.is(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> David Kaye wrote:
>
>> I'm still amazed at how many customers don't have backups of things like their
>> accounting, their precious family photos, their masters thesis, whatever. But
>> then again, when their computers get infected they call on me because I can
>> fix them up without having to wipe their HDs.
>
> I used to be like that! ;)
>
> Do you have a website for your business, David?
>
> If so, may I visit?
>
> --
> Dave
>
>

From: Hot-text on
February 2009 It shut down the machine to put a backup, in your recent
backup!
Now it March 2010, and it was backup February 2009 .... time is on his side!



"David Kaye" <sfdavidkaye2(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "FromTheRafters" <erratic @nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>>One might think that it would be easier to detect viruses than would be
>>to detect malware since it is known that at least one function of the
>>virally infected program will cause replication - it is at least
>>something constant to look for, but virus authors have complicated
>>things somewhat.
>
> In February 2009 I had a virus on my main computer that was the very worse
> I've ever seen. I never did find it because I shut down the machine as
> soon
> as I saw what was happening. It kept copying an html snippet to each and
> every stored web page, text file, and Word document it could find. The
> URL
> pointed to a place in Poland. The thing was a menace. When I searched on
> the
> URL within files on my HD I found no fewer than 2500 files had been
> infected
> in a very short amount of time, maybe 10 minutes.
>
> Luckily I had a recent backup of all the files I needed, so I just
> reformatted
> the drive.
>
From: MEB on
On 03/10/2010 11:25 AM, Hot-text wrote:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malware
>
> Then call it a malware as it's a vehicle for organized Internet crime!
>
>
> "David Kaye" <sfdavidkaye2(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hn17tf$jl9$3(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> "FromTheRafters" <erratic @nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>
>>>> / Thank you ! /
>>>
>>> It's a constant battle. :o)
>>>
>>
>> But "malware" is such an invented term that I have to keep explaining
>> it to
>> people. It's not all spyware so we can't use that term, either.
>

I have a better idea, how about we all get "real" and start calling all
of this what it truly is, *crimeware*, so there is no confusion with all
these supposed minimal/simple BHO hijacks, spyware, and all of these
lesser labels which give the impression these are simple single
activities of supposedly no real or great concern.
This isn't 20 years ago or even 10, when single instances of these
occurred; when cleaning something found ensured "that was all that
needed done".
These are now generally used in multiples and combined efforts and
generally bring more payload, much of which may be undetectable.
Perhaps a quick look at "embedded OSs" and how small those can be, yet
how effective they are/what they can do, might bring a bit more reality;
maybe this will spark some ideas/thoughts on on just what CAN be done...
we live in a different world now people, how about we "get current" and
sensible. We have estimated and/or known thousands of new "crimeware"
and methodologies involved, and hundreds of thousands of people engaged
in these *crimeware* creations and distributions..
Consider this against the number of people who write the code for any
MS Windows product, or an AV product, or anything else... so how about
we "get real" and start addressing this as we should, maybe we can then
get a handle on the issues and problems...

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From: David Kaye on
MEB <MEB-not-here(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

> I have a better idea, how about we all get "real" and start calling all
>of this what it truly is, *crimeware*, so there is no confusion with all

Crimeware. I like that. The term also makes it sound as sinister as it
really is. Malware sounds kind of dorky, actually, and doesn't convey the
full impact the problem has.

From: David Kaye on
Hi Dave,

I guess I missed your post asking if I had a website for my business. I saw
your reply on the screen snap you presented.

Anyhow, I do have a website and it has gotten only one customer in the year or
two it's been up. I wasn't expecting much else. I use the yellow pages and
word of mouth for my advertising. I'm in three phone books, which keeps me
very busy.