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From: Colin Barnhorst on 14 Jan 2008 21:33 Here is a link to Intels specs for thermally advantaged cases: http://www.intel.com/support/processors/pentium4/sb/CS-008537.htm A link with explanations: http://www.overclockers.com/tips00528/ And here is a link to a typical supplier: http://www.xoxide.com/aspirecases.html "NYTELTECH" <NYTELTECH(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7F5B4E56-A674-4405-AF01-E5A42EBDEAD6(a)microsoft.com... > Like I said, I really appreciate all the suggestions, and I will get the > fans > I need. If you would recommend a case, I will order it tomorrow. It's > just > that there were so many when I searched and I don't know enough about > cases > and whether pricing is a factor in making that decision. Please don't > suggest a 500 case with liquid cooling and all that, LOL. > But the question still remains...Why is my laptop experiencing shutdowns? > > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: > >> Yes, heat would cause random stop errors. I used at least three case >> fans >> with all my Pentium 4 machines, especially with Prescotts. Yours is even >> more powerful than those. Use 80mm fans. 120mm fans are too noisy. >> >> "NYTELTECH" <NYTELTECH(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:4457CE65-76CF-4B9E-B14B-E09F438CB9F4(a)microsoft.com... >> > You know, I've been thinking since my last post. Suppose it IS heat. >> > would >> > it cause multiple / random stop errors? Also, and the reason why I >> > didn't >> > include this earlier, why would I have the same problem on another PC >> > that >> > has never been networked with my desktop? The only thing in common >> > between >> > this laptop (IBM Lenovo T60) and my desktop, was using the same >> > internet >> > connection (cable modem) I did not have a router to network them, and >> > don't >> > want to. I use this laptop with dial-up. The only thing I have to say >> > is >> > that this laptop is more stable -- but the problems ARE the same, >> > nonetheless. I don't want to seem ungrateful, but as I stated in one >> > of >> > my >> > earlier posts, I DO have good troubleshooting skills, and I have >> > researched >> > this... >> > I just don't have any other options. Thank you., >> > >> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: >> > >> >> Are you using a thermally advantaged case and how many case fans do >> >> you >> >> have? >> >> >> >> "NYTELTECH" <NYTELTECH(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:CD056E89-D548-4091-8099-5859DC8DAFD5(a)microsoft.com... >> >> > Sorry, it's @ 60, didn't check typing >> >> > >> >> > "Patrick" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> "NYTELTECH" <NYTELTECH(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> >> news:472BE292-F936-415E-98B5-D86AD5B7B547(a)microsoft.com... >> >> >> > Seems like The combination of AW8D motherboard and Intel chip >> >> >> > just >> >> >> > wouldn't >> >> >> > let 32 bit OS get installed. anyway, I checked temps. They are: >> >> >> > CPU:70c, >> >> >> > motherboard 35c, and I've been keeping the case open since I >> >> >> > thought >> >> >> > it >> >> >> > might be heat as well. I don't think that's it anymore, but I'm >> >> >> > still >> >> >> > open >> >> >> > to suggestions. As far as memory goes, I have already run >> >> >> > weekend >> >> >> > stress >> >> >> > tests and found no problems. This is actually too much computer >> >> >> > for >> >> >> > what >> >> >> > I >> >> >> > use it for, but I had to satisfy myself and make my first build. >> >> >> > Power >> >> >> > was >> >> >> > an issue when I first put my "Frankenstein" together. I was >> >> >> > trying >> >> >> > to >> >> >> > run >> >> >> > this thing with an old 300W p/s. Needless to say, that did NOT >> >> >> > go >> >> >> > well. >> >> >> > I >> >> >> > replaced it with an 800W BFG if I remember correctly, and it >> >> >> > helped, >> >> >> > but >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > problems have not gone away. I really appreciate the input guys, >> >> >> > and >> >> >> > will >> >> >> > attempt anything suggested here because I am at a loss. I'm >> >> >> > technically >> >> >> > savvy, and have great troubleshooting skills, but this thing is >> >> >> > not >> >> >> > a >> >> >> > phone >> >> >> > system. Thanks. >> >> >> >> >> >> 70c is to hot throw some ice on it :) should be 50-60 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
From: NYTELTECH on 14 Jan 2008 21:42 I don't think I can say this enough guys. THANK YOU! I feel like an idiot, but since you guys started posting temp comments, I decided to investigate this further. I found that my CPU fan was actually at a slowewr speed than it should be. I crancked it up to the "coolest" setting, and I've been running smooth now for about 1hr. I can even switch users and all! THAT'S LONGER THAN ANY DAY THIS WEEK, AND MORE SWITCHING THAN I'VE DONE THIS MONTH! I have copied your links, and will be looking for a case that will accomodate my hardware better. If anything comes up I will post back to this thread in a couple of days. I think I'll start a new thread for my laptop LOL "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: > Here is a link to Intels specs for thermally advantaged cases: > http://www.intel.com/support/processors/pentium4/sb/CS-008537.htm > > A link with explanations: > http://www.overclockers.com/tips00528/ > > And here is a link to a typical supplier: > http://www.xoxide.com/aspirecases.html > > "NYTELTECH" <NYTELTECH(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:7F5B4E56-A674-4405-AF01-E5A42EBDEAD6(a)microsoft.com... > > Like I said, I really appreciate all the suggestions, and I will get the > > fans > > I need. If you would recommend a case, I will order it tomorrow. It's > > just > > that there were so many when I searched and I don't know enough about > > cases > > and whether pricing is a factor in making that decision. Please don't > > suggest a 500 case with liquid cooling and all that, LOL. > > But the question still remains...Why is my laptop experiencing shutdowns? > > > > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: > > > >> Yes, heat would cause random stop errors. I used at least three case > >> fans > >> with all my Pentium 4 machines, especially with Prescotts. Yours is even > >> more powerful than those. Use 80mm fans. 120mm fans are too noisy. > >> > >> "NYTELTECH" <NYTELTECH(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:4457CE65-76CF-4B9E-B14B-E09F438CB9F4(a)microsoft.com... > >> > You know, I've been thinking since my last post. Suppose it IS heat. > >> > would > >> > it cause multiple / random stop errors? Also, and the reason why I > >> > didn't > >> > include this earlier, why would I have the same problem on another PC > >> > that > >> > has never been networked with my desktop? The only thing in common > >> > between > >> > this laptop (IBM Lenovo T60) and my desktop, was using the same > >> > internet > >> > connection (cable modem) I did not have a router to network them, and > >> > don't > >> > want to. I use this laptop with dial-up. The only thing I have to say > >> > is > >> > that this laptop is more stable -- but the problems ARE the same, > >> > nonetheless. I don't want to seem ungrateful, but as I stated in one > >> > of > >> > my > >> > earlier posts, I DO have good troubleshooting skills, and I have > >> > researched > >> > this... > >> > I just don't have any other options. Thank you., > >> > > >> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: > >> > > >> >> Are you using a thermally advantaged case and how many case fans do > >> >> you > >> >> have? > >> >> > >> >> "NYTELTECH" <NYTELTECH(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:CD056E89-D548-4091-8099-5859DC8DAFD5(a)microsoft.com... > >> >> > Sorry, it's @ 60, didn't check typing > >> >> > > >> >> > "Patrick" wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "NYTELTECH" <NYTELTECH(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:472BE292-F936-415E-98B5-D86AD5B7B547(a)microsoft.com... > >> >> >> > Seems like The combination of AW8D motherboard and Intel chip > >> >> >> > just > >> >> >> > wouldn't > >> >> >> > let 32 bit OS get installed. anyway, I checked temps. They are: > >> >> >> > CPU:70c, > >> >> >> > motherboard 35c, and I've been keeping the case open since I > >> >> >> > thought > >> >> >> > it > >> >> >> > might be heat as well. I don't think that's it anymore, but I'm > >> >> >> > still > >> >> >> > open > >> >> >> > to suggestions. As far as memory goes, I have already run > >> >> >> > weekend > >> >> >> > stress > >> >> >> > tests and found no problems. This is actually too much computer > >> >> >> > for > >> >> >> > what > >> >> >> > I > >> >> >> > use it for, but I had to satisfy myself and make my first build. > >> >> >> > Power > >> >> >> > was > >> >> >> > an issue when I first put my "Frankenstein" together. I was > >> >> >> > trying > >> >> >> > to > >> >> >> > run > >> >> >> > this thing with an old 300W p/s. Needless to say, that did NOT > >> >> >> > go > >> >> >> > well. > >> >> >> > I > >> >> >> > replaced it with an 800W BFG if I remember correctly, and it > >> >> >> > helped, > >> >> >> > but > >> >> >> > the > >> >> >> > problems have not gone away. I really appreciate the input guys, > >> >> >> > and > >> >> >> > will > >> >> >> > attempt anything suggested here because I am at a loss. I'm > >> >> >> > technically > >> >> >> > savvy, and have great troubleshooting skills, but this thing is > >> >> >> > not > >> >> >> > a > >> >> >> > phone > >> >> >> > system. Thanks. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> 70c is to hot throw some ice on it :) should be 50-60 > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >
From: Colin Barnhorst on 14 Jan 2008 22:00 You're welcome. Good luck. "NYTELTECH" <NYTELTECH(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:17636477-FC21-4FA9-90F8-2B983BB9D97A(a)microsoft.com... >I don't think I can say this enough guys. THANK YOU! I feel like an >idiot, > but since you guys started posting temp comments, I decided to investigate > this further. I found that my CPU fan was actually at a slowewr speed > than > it should be. I crancked it up to the "coolest" setting, and I've been > running smooth now for about 1hr. I can even switch users and all! > THAT'S > LONGER THAN ANY DAY THIS WEEK, AND MORE SWITCHING THAN I'VE DONE THIS > MONTH! > I have copied your links, and will be looking for a case that will > accomodate > my hardware better. If anything comes up I will post back to this thread > in > a couple of days. > I think I'll start a new thread for my laptop LOL > > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: > >> Here is a link to Intels specs for thermally advantaged cases: >> http://www.intel.com/support/processors/pentium4/sb/CS-008537.htm >> >> A link with explanations: >> http://www.overclockers.com/tips00528/ >> >> And here is a link to a typical supplier: >> http://www.xoxide.com/aspirecases.html >> >> "NYTELTECH" <NYTELTECH(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:7F5B4E56-A674-4405-AF01-E5A42EBDEAD6(a)microsoft.com... >> > Like I said, I really appreciate all the suggestions, and I will get >> > the >> > fans >> > I need. If you would recommend a case, I will order it tomorrow. It's >> > just >> > that there were so many when I searched and I don't know enough about >> > cases >> > and whether pricing is a factor in making that decision. Please don't >> > suggest a 500 case with liquid cooling and all that, LOL. >> > But the question still remains...Why is my laptop experiencing >> > shutdowns? >> > >> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: >> > >> >> Yes, heat would cause random stop errors. I used at least three case >> >> fans >> >> with all my Pentium 4 machines, especially with Prescotts. Yours is >> >> even >> >> more powerful than those. Use 80mm fans. 120mm fans are too noisy. >> >> >> >> "NYTELTECH" <NYTELTECH(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:4457CE65-76CF-4B9E-B14B-E09F438CB9F4(a)microsoft.com... >> >> > You know, I've been thinking since my last post. Suppose it IS >> >> > heat. >> >> > would >> >> > it cause multiple / random stop errors? Also, and the reason why I >> >> > didn't >> >> > include this earlier, why would I have the same problem on another >> >> > PC >> >> > that >> >> > has never been networked with my desktop? The only thing in common >> >> > between >> >> > this laptop (IBM Lenovo T60) and my desktop, was using the same >> >> > internet >> >> > connection (cable modem) I did not have a router to network them, >> >> > and >> >> > don't >> >> > want to. I use this laptop with dial-up. The only thing I have to >> >> > say >> >> > is >> >> > that this laptop is more stable -- but the problems ARE the same, >> >> > nonetheless. I don't want to seem ungrateful, but as I stated in >> >> > one >> >> > of >> >> > my >> >> > earlier posts, I DO have good troubleshooting skills, and I have >> >> > researched >> >> > this... >> >> > I just don't have any other options. Thank you., >> >> > >> >> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Are you using a thermally advantaged case and how many case fans do >> >> >> you >> >> >> have? >> >> >> >> >> >> "NYTELTECH" <NYTELTECH(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> >> news:CD056E89-D548-4091-8099-5859DC8DAFD5(a)microsoft.com... >> >> >> > Sorry, it's @ 60, didn't check typing >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Patrick" wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "NYTELTECH" <NYTELTECH(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >> >> >> >> message >> >> >> >> news:472BE292-F936-415E-98B5-D86AD5B7B547(a)microsoft.com... >> >> >> >> > Seems like The combination of AW8D motherboard and Intel chip >> >> >> >> > just >> >> >> >> > wouldn't >> >> >> >> > let 32 bit OS get installed. anyway, I checked temps. They >> >> >> >> > are: >> >> >> >> > CPU:70c, >> >> >> >> > motherboard 35c, and I've been keeping the case open since I >> >> >> >> > thought >> >> >> >> > it >> >> >> >> > might be heat as well. I don't think that's it anymore, but >> >> >> >> > I'm >> >> >> >> > still >> >> >> >> > open >> >> >> >> > to suggestions. As far as memory goes, I have already run >> >> >> >> > weekend >> >> >> >> > stress >> >> >> >> > tests and found no problems. This is actually too much >> >> >> >> > computer >> >> >> >> > for >> >> >> >> > what >> >> >> >> > I >> >> >> >> > use it for, but I had to satisfy myself and make my first >> >> >> >> > build. >> >> >> >> > Power >> >> >> >> > was >> >> >> >> > an issue when I first put my "Frankenstein" together. I was >> >> >> >> > trying >> >> >> >> > to >> >> >> >> > run >> >> >> >> > this thing with an old 300W p/s. Needless to say, that did >> >> >> >> > NOT >> >> >> >> > go >> >> >> >> > well. >> >> >> >> > I >> >> >> >> > replaced it with an 800W BFG if I remember correctly, and it >> >> >> >> > helped, >> >> >> >> > but >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> > problems have not gone away. I really appreciate the input >> >> >> >> > guys, >> >> >> >> > and >> >> >> >> > will >> >> >> >> > attempt anything suggested here because I am at a loss. I'm >> >> >> >> > technically >> >> >> >> > savvy, and have great troubleshooting skills, but this thing >> >> >> >> > is >> >> >> >> > not >> >> >> >> > a >> >> >> >> > phone >> >> >> >> > system. Thanks. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 70c is to hot throw some ice on it :) should be 50-60 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
From: John Barnes on 14 Jan 2008 22:16 Just one additional note, leaving the case open doesn't necessarily help the system run cooler. A well designed case has an airflow that required that all panels be in place. An open case can change the airflow and cause heat to build up in certain areas. "NYTELTECH" <NYTELTECH(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:17636477-FC21-4FA9-90F8-2B983BB9D97A(a)microsoft.com... >I don't think I can say this enough guys. THANK YOU! I feel like an >idiot, > but since you guys started posting temp comments, I decided to investigate > this further. I found that my CPU fan was actually at a slowewr speed > than > it should be. I crancked it up to the "coolest" setting, and I've been > running smooth now for about 1hr. I can even switch users and all! > THAT'S > LONGER THAN ANY DAY THIS WEEK, AND MORE SWITCHING THAN I'VE DONE THIS > MONTH! > I have copied your links, and will be looking for a case that will > accomodate > my hardware better. If anything comes up I will post back to this thread > in > a couple of days. > I think I'll start a new thread for my laptop LOL > > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: > >> Here is a link to Intels specs for thermally advantaged cases: >> http://www.intel.com/support/processors/pentium4/sb/CS-008537.htm >> >> A link with explanations: >> http://www.overclockers.com/tips00528/ >> >> And here is a link to a typical supplier: >> http://www.xoxide.com/aspirecases.html >> >> "NYTELTECH" <NYTELTECH(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:7F5B4E56-A674-4405-AF01-E5A42EBDEAD6(a)microsoft.com... >> > Like I said, I really appreciate all the suggestions, and I will get >> > the >> > fans >> > I need. If you would recommend a case, I will order it tomorrow. It's >> > just >> > that there were so many when I searched and I don't know enough about >> > cases >> > and whether pricing is a factor in making that decision. Please don't >> > suggest a 500 case with liquid cooling and all that, LOL. >> > But the question still remains...Why is my laptop experiencing >> > shutdowns? >> > >> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: >> > >> >> Yes, heat would cause random stop errors. I used at least three case >> >> fans >> >> with all my Pentium 4 machines, especially with Prescotts. Yours is >> >> even >> >> more powerful than those. Use 80mm fans. 120mm fans are too noisy. >> >> >> >> "NYTELTECH" <NYTELTECH(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:4457CE65-76CF-4B9E-B14B-E09F438CB9F4(a)microsoft.com... >> >> > You know, I've been thinking since my last post. Suppose it IS >> >> > heat. >> >> > would >> >> > it cause multiple / random stop errors? Also, and the reason why I >> >> > didn't >> >> > include this earlier, why would I have the same problem on another >> >> > PC >> >> > that >> >> > has never been networked with my desktop? The only thing in common >> >> > between >> >> > this laptop (IBM Lenovo T60) and my desktop, was using the same >> >> > internet >> >> > connection (cable modem) I did not have a router to network them, >> >> > and >> >> > don't >> >> > want to. I use this laptop with dial-up. The only thing I have to >> >> > say >> >> > is >> >> > that this laptop is more stable -- but the problems ARE the same, >> >> > nonetheless. I don't want to seem ungrateful, but as I stated in >> >> > one >> >> > of >> >> > my >> >> > earlier posts, I DO have good troubleshooting skills, and I have >> >> > researched >> >> > this... >> >> > I just don't have any other options. Thank you., >> >> > >> >> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Are you using a thermally advantaged case and how many case fans do >> >> >> you >> >> >> have? >> >> >> >> >> >> "NYTELTECH" <NYTELTECH(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> >> news:CD056E89-D548-4091-8099-5859DC8DAFD5(a)microsoft.com... >> >> >> > Sorry, it's @ 60, didn't check typing >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Patrick" wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "NYTELTECH" <NYTELTECH(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >> >> >> >> message >> >> >> >> news:472BE292-F936-415E-98B5-D86AD5B7B547(a)microsoft.com... >> >> >> >> > Seems like The combination of AW8D motherboard and Intel chip >> >> >> >> > just >> >> >> >> > wouldn't >> >> >> >> > let 32 bit OS get installed. anyway, I checked temps. They >> >> >> >> > are: >> >> >> >> > CPU:70c, >> >> >> >> > motherboard 35c, and I've been keeping the case open since I >> >> >> >> > thought >> >> >> >> > it >> >> >> >> > might be heat as well. I don't think that's it anymore, but >> >> >> >> > I'm >> >> >> >> > still >> >> >> >> > open >> >> >> >> > to suggestions. As far as memory goes, I have already run >> >> >> >> > weekend >> >> >> >> > stress >> >> >> >> > tests and found no problems. This is actually too much >> >> >> >> > computer >> >> >> >> > for >> >> >> >> > what >> >> >> >> > I >> >> >> >> > use it for, but I had to satisfy myself and make my first >> >> >> >> > build. >> >> >> >> > Power >> >> >> >> > was >> >> >> >> > an issue when I first put my "Frankenstein" together. I was >> >> >> >> > trying >> >> >> >> > to >> >> >> >> > run >> >> >> >> > this thing with an old 300W p/s. Needless to say, that did >> >> >> >> > NOT >> >> >> >> > go >> >> >> >> > well. >> >> >> >> > I >> >> >> >> > replaced it with an 800W BFG if I remember correctly, and it >> >> >> >> > helped, >> >> >> >> > but >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> > problems have not gone away. I really appreciate the input >> >> >> >> > guys, >> >> >> >> > and >> >> >> >> > will >> >> >> >> > attempt anything suggested here because I am at a loss. I'm >> >> >> >> > technically >> >> >> >> > savvy, and have great troubleshooting skills, but this thing >> >> >> >> > is >> >> >> >> > not >> >> >> >> > a >> >> >> >> > phone >> >> >> >> > system. Thanks. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 70c is to hot throw some ice on it :) should be 50-60 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
From: Tony Sperling on 14 Jan 2008 22:53
This is correct, leaving a side open will certainly expose the system to room temperature, but it ruins airflow that is directed at hotspots - this mean that it is o.k. while troubleshooting or as an emergency, but leaving it open will surely shorten the life of a handfull of essential parts. While Colin suggested 120mm fans generated more noise, they exchange a volume of air using slower speed. An 80mm fan would have to run faster to exchange the same volume. The result might be roughly the same but the 120mm should have a lower pitched sound, in my opinion. also, slower speed will not stress the bearings, so you don't hear them for a much longer time. (all depending on the last dime spent, most likely.) You shouldn't have to worry about watercooling unless you want to, but do spend some sensible amount on a good intelligent case - you will really, really love it when you press the button the first time - and every time after that! Tony. . . "John Barnes" <jbarnes(a)email.net> wrote in message news:ecHjFUyVIHA.3400(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Just one additional note, leaving the case open doesn't necessarily help > the system run cooler. A well designed case has an airflow that required > that all panels be in place. An open case can change the airflow and > cause heat to build up in certain areas. > > "NYTELTECH" <NYTELTECH(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:17636477-FC21-4FA9-90F8-2B983BB9D97A(a)microsoft.com... >>I don't think I can say this enough guys. THANK YOU! I feel like an >>idiot, >> but since you guys started posting temp comments, I decided to >> investigate >> this further. I found that my CPU fan was actually at a slowewr speed >> than >> it should be. I crancked it up to the "coolest" setting, and I've been >> running smooth now for about 1hr. I can even switch users and all! >> THAT'S >> LONGER THAN ANY DAY THIS WEEK, AND MORE SWITCHING THAN I'VE DONE THIS >> MONTH! >> I have copied your links, and will be looking for a case that will >> accomodate >> my hardware better. If anything comes up I will post back to this thread >> in >> a couple of days. >> I think I'll start a new thread for my laptop LOL >> >> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: >> >>> Here is a link to Intels specs for thermally advantaged cases: >>> http://www.intel.com/support/processors/pentium4/sb/CS-008537.htm >>> >>> A link with explanations: >>> http://www.overclockers.com/tips00528/ >>> >>> And here is a link to a typical supplier: >>> http://www.xoxide.com/aspirecases.html >>> >>> "NYTELTECH" <NYTELTECH(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:7F5B4E56-A674-4405-AF01-E5A42EBDEAD6(a)microsoft.com... >>> > Like I said, I really appreciate all the suggestions, and I will get >>> > the >>> > fans >>> > I need. If you would recommend a case, I will order it tomorrow. >>> > It's >>> > just >>> > that there were so many when I searched and I don't know enough about >>> > cases >>> > and whether pricing is a factor in making that decision. Please don't >>> > suggest a 500 case with liquid cooling and all that, LOL. >>> > But the question still remains...Why is my laptop experiencing >>> > shutdowns? >>> > >>> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: >>> > >>> >> Yes, heat would cause random stop errors. I used at least three case >>> >> fans >>> >> with all my Pentium 4 machines, especially with Prescotts. Yours is >>> >> even >>> >> more powerful than those. Use 80mm fans. 120mm fans are too noisy. >>> >> >>> >> "NYTELTECH" <NYTELTECH(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> >> news:4457CE65-76CF-4B9E-B14B-E09F438CB9F4(a)microsoft.com... >>> >> > You know, I've been thinking since my last post. Suppose it IS >>> >> > heat. >>> >> > would >>> >> > it cause multiple / random stop errors? Also, and the reason why I >>> >> > didn't >>> >> > include this earlier, why would I have the same problem on another >>> >> > PC >>> >> > that >>> >> > has never been networked with my desktop? The only thing in common >>> >> > between >>> >> > this laptop (IBM Lenovo T60) and my desktop, was using the same >>> >> > internet >>> >> > connection (cable modem) I did not have a router to network them, >>> >> > and >>> >> > don't >>> >> > want to. I use this laptop with dial-up. The only thing I have to >>> >> > say >>> >> > is >>> >> > that this laptop is more stable -- but the problems ARE the same, >>> >> > nonetheless. I don't want to seem ungrateful, but as I stated in >>> >> > one >>> >> > of >>> >> > my >>> >> > earlier posts, I DO have good troubleshooting skills, and I have >>> >> > researched >>> >> > this... >>> >> > I just don't have any other options. Thank you., >>> >> > >>> >> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> >> Are you using a thermally advantaged case and how many case fans >>> >> >> do >>> >> >> you >>> >> >> have? >>> >> >> >>> >> >> "NYTELTECH" <NYTELTECH(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> >> >> news:CD056E89-D548-4091-8099-5859DC8DAFD5(a)microsoft.com... >>> >> >> > Sorry, it's @ 60, didn't check typing >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > "Patrick" wrote: >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> "NYTELTECH" <NYTELTECH(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >>> >> >> >> message >>> >> >> >> news:472BE292-F936-415E-98B5-D86AD5B7B547(a)microsoft.com... >>> >> >> >> > Seems like The combination of AW8D motherboard and Intel chip >>> >> >> >> > just >>> >> >> >> > wouldn't >>> >> >> >> > let 32 bit OS get installed. anyway, I checked temps. They >>> >> >> >> > are: >>> >> >> >> > CPU:70c, >>> >> >> >> > motherboard 35c, and I've been keeping the case open since I >>> >> >> >> > thought >>> >> >> >> > it >>> >> >> >> > might be heat as well. I don't think that's it anymore, but >>> >> >> >> > I'm >>> >> >> >> > still >>> >> >> >> > open >>> >> >> >> > to suggestions. As far as memory goes, I have already run >>> >> >> >> > weekend >>> >> >> >> > stress >>> >> >> >> > tests and found no problems. This is actually too much >>> >> >> >> > computer >>> >> >> >> > for >>> >> >> >> > what >>> >> >> >> > I >>> >> >> >> > use it for, but I had to satisfy myself and make my first >>> >> >> >> > build. >>> >> >> >> > Power >>> >> >> >> > was >>> >> >> >> > an issue when I first put my "Frankenstein" together. I was >>> >> >> >> > trying >>> >> >> >> > to >>> >> >> >> > run >>> >> >> >> > this thing with an old 300W p/s. Needless to say, that did >>> >> >> >> > NOT >>> >> >> >> > go >>> >> >> >> > well. >>> >> >> >> > I >>> >> >> >> > replaced it with an 800W BFG if I remember correctly, and it >>> >> >> >> > helped, >>> >> >> >> > but >>> >> >> >> > the >>> >> >> >> > problems have not gone away. I really appreciate the input >>> >> >> >> > guys, >>> >> >> >> > and >>> >> >> >> > will >>> >> >> >> > attempt anything suggested here because I am at a loss. I'm >>> >> >> >> > technically >>> >> >> >> > savvy, and have great troubleshooting skills, but this thing >>> >> >> >> > is >>> >> >> >> > not >>> >> >> >> > a >>> >> >> >> > phone >>> >> >> >> > system. Thanks. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> 70c is to hot throw some ice on it :) should be 50-60 >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> > |