From: Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr. on
On Jan 3, 4:29 pm, Baugh <i_am_just_some_guy1...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 4, 9:51 am, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."
>
>
>
> <ostap_bender_1...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 3, 4:03 am, Baugh <i_am_just_some_guy1...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 3, 8:25 pm, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."
>
> > > <ostap_bender_1...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Jan 2, 8:06 pm, Baugh <i_am_just_some_guy1...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Dec 16 2009, 12:11 am, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."
>
> > > > > <ostap_bender_1...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Dec 14, 11:30 am, YBM <ybm...(a)nooos.fr.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Giovanni Resta a écrit :
>
> > > > > > > > On 14/12/2009 19.15, YBM wrote:
> > > > > > > >> Inverse 19 mathematics a écrit :
> > > > > > > >>> [nonsense]
> > > > > > > >>> Vinoo Cameron, Theo Denotter, Hope Research
>
> > > > > > > >>Twonutsin apsychiatrichospital?
>
> > > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folie_%C3%A0_deux
>
> > > > > > > > This is really a sad case. I hope thesetwoguys
> > > > > > > > search soon some mental health support because they
> > > > > > > > clearly share an obsession about math, which now it
> > > > > > > > is more or less innocuous, but can readily extend to
> > > > > > > > more mundane matters and become more dangerous for them
> > > > > > > > and other people.
>
> > > > > > > > Apparently one of these guys is a family doctor
> > > > > > > > (search for Dr Vinoo Cameron MD Family Practice Physician Athens, WI )
> > > > > > > > I find this thing quite scaring...
>
> > > > > > > Dr. Vinoo Cameron MD
> > > > > > > 704 Pine St
> > > > > > > Hope Clinic
> > > > > > > Athens, WI 54411
>
> > > > > > > Damned! Really scary! He's even given his clinic the same name
> > > > > > > he gave to his nutty research.
>
> > > > > > > Is there some medical institution in USA which should be aware of
> > > > > > > this dangerous mess?
>
> > > > > > It gets even scarier. He also mentions Christopher Cold MD in his
> > > > > > posts. Well, here he is:
>
> > > > > >http://www.cirp.org/library/anatomy/cold-taylor/
>
> > > > > > The prepuce
>
> > > > > > C.J. COLD and J.R. TAYLOR*
> > > > > > Departments of Pathology, Marshfield Clinic, Wisconsin, USA, and
> > > > > > *Health Sciences Centre, University of Manitoba, Canada
>
> > > > > > Keywords  Prepuce, embryology, development, anatomy, function,
> > > > > > circumcision, histology
>
> > > > > > Introduction
>
> > > > > > The prepuce is a common anatomical structure of the male [1] and
> > > > > > female [2] external genitalia of all human and non-human primates...
>
> > > > > > Authors
>
> > > > > > C.J. Cold, MD, Pathologist.
> > > > > > J.R. Taylor, MB, ChB, MRCPED, FRCPC, Pathologist.
>
> > > > > > Correspondence: Christopher J. Cold, MD, Department of Pathology,
> > > > > > 1000 North Oak Ave, Marshfield, Wisconsin, 54449, USA.
>
> > > > > > -------------------------
>
> > > > > > Almost the same zip code...
>
> > > > > > Here are more of his Wisconsin characters:
>
> > > > > >http://www.inverse19mathematics.com/site/Welcome.html
>
> > > > > > Vinoo Cameron and Thomas Ellenbecker... Professor Edgar E Escultur...
> > > > > > us, raw mathematicians at Hope Research... Vinoo Cameron M.D CHCQM,
> > > > > > Theo Denotter, Hope Research...
>
> > > > > > Hope Research
> > > > > > Principal Research Discoverers:
> > > > > > Vinoo Cameron
> > > > > > Theo den Otter
>
> > > > > > Associates Prime Researchers:
> > > > > > John Daniels (Inverse Law)
> > > > > > Tod Kittel (Topological Research)
>
> > > > > > Assentors:
> > > > > > Dr. Gillian Battino, MD
> > > > > > Dr. Christipher Cold, MD
> > > > > > Matt Spaulding, Engineer
> > > > > > Reed Hall
> > > > > > Thomas Ellenbecker Jr.
>
> > > > > > Edgar E. Escultura
> > > > > > MathSciNet
> > > > > > Ph.D. University of Wisconsin-Madison 1970
>
> > > > > > Theo den Otter
> > > > > > Owner, denotter's repair
> > > > > > Wausau, Wisconsin Area
>
> > > > > Anybody living in Wisconsin, perhaps give the clinic a ring? They
> > > > > should clearly be notified if one of their physicians
> > > > > (a family physician nonetheless) seems to be delusional or psychotic,
> > > > > and may be unfit to carry out his duties. This will probably
> > > > > need serious investigation on the clinic's part.
>
> > > > > The problem is that it's not clear that the Vinoo Cameron on Usenet is
> > > > > the actual Vinoo Cameron
> > > > > and not someone willfully impersonating him for the purpose of
> > > > > tarnishing his reputation.
>
> > > > Exactly what I fear too. May be worth it to call these people and find
> > > > out if they are aware of this situation.
>
> > > Here's a phone number for Hope Clinic in Athens, WI, from the
> > > internet:
>
> > > 715-257-9900
>
> > > Somebody should definitely help to call them and set this straight.
>
> > I would also call the other people that this fellow mentions in his
> > posts and inform them of what is being done to their good names.
>
> > Look, if this guy claimed that there were 1 or 2 people involved - I
> > could believe him. But with so many names mentioned - I may suspect
> > that this loon is somebody else entirely and uses the good names of
> > these people out of spite.
>
> Yeah, the guy really does appear to be a loon. His posts are just
> getting weirder and more incoherent
> each time, like the distorted thoughts of someone who does need
> serious psychiatric care.
>

Either:

A. He is indeed a practicing medical doctor, in which case his insane
behaviour is dangerous to his patients

or

B. He is falsely impersonating and name-dropping these real-life
Wisconsin doctors, in which case these doctors need to be notified of
this impersonation, damage to their reputation and of possible bodily
harm from a menacing crazy man. Why did he choose to impersonate
them?
From: Baugh on
On Jan 4, 5:31 pm, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."
<ostap_bender_1...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 3, 4:29 pm, Baugh <i_am_just_some_guy1...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 4, 9:51 am, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."
>
> > <ostap_bender_1...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jan 3, 4:03 am, Baugh <i_am_just_some_guy1...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 3, 8:25 pm, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."
>
> > > > <ostap_bender_1...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Jan 2, 8:06 pm, Baugh <i_am_just_some_guy1...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Dec 16 2009, 12:11 am, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."
>
> > > > > > <ostap_bender_1...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > On Dec 14, 11:30 am, YBM <ybm...(a)nooos.fr.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Giovanni Resta a écrit :
>
> > > > > > > > > On 14/12/2009 19.15, YBM wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> Inverse 19 mathematics a écrit :
> > > > > > > > >>> [nonsense]
> > > > > > > > >>> Vinoo Cameron, Theo Denotter, Hope Research
>
> > > > > > > > >>Twonutsin apsychiatrichospital?
>
> > > > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folie_%C3%A0_deux
>
> > > > > > > > > This is really a sad case. I hope thesetwoguys
> > > > > > > > > search soon some mental health support because they
> > > > > > > > > clearly share an obsession about math, which now it
> > > > > > > > > is more or less innocuous, but can readily extend to
> > > > > > > > > more mundane matters and become more dangerous for them
> > > > > > > > > and other people.
>
> > > > > > > > > Apparently one of these guys is a family doctor
> > > > > > > > > (search for Dr Vinoo Cameron MD Family Practice Physician Athens, WI )
> > > > > > > > > I find this thing quite scaring...
>
> > > > > > > > Dr. Vinoo Cameron MD
> > > > > > > > 704 Pine St
> > > > > > > > Hope Clinic
> > > > > > > > Athens, WI 54411
>
> > > > > > > > Damned! Really scary! He's even given his clinic the same name
> > > > > > > > he gave to his nutty research.
>
> > > > > > > > Is there some medical institution in USA which should be aware of
> > > > > > > > this dangerous mess?
>
> > > > > > > It gets even scarier. He also mentions Christopher Cold MD in his
> > > > > > > posts. Well, here he is:
>
> > > > > > >http://www.cirp.org/library/anatomy/cold-taylor/
>
> > > > > > > The prepuce
>
> > > > > > > C.J. COLD and J.R. TAYLOR*
> > > > > > > Departments of Pathology, Marshfield Clinic, Wisconsin, USA, and
> > > > > > > *Health Sciences Centre, University of Manitoba, Canada
>
> > > > > > > Keywords  Prepuce, embryology, development, anatomy, function,
> > > > > > > circumcision, histology
>
> > > > > > > Introduction
>
> > > > > > > The prepuce is a common anatomical structure of the male [1] and
> > > > > > > female [2] external genitalia of all human and non-human primates...
>
> > > > > > > Authors
>
> > > > > > > C.J. Cold, MD, Pathologist.
> > > > > > > J.R. Taylor, MB, ChB, MRCPED, FRCPC, Pathologist.
>
> > > > > > > Correspondence: Christopher J. Cold, MD, Department of Pathology,
> > > > > > > 1000 North Oak Ave, Marshfield, Wisconsin, 54449, USA.
>
> > > > > > > -------------------------
>
> > > > > > > Almost the same zip code...
>
> > > > > > > Here are more of his Wisconsin characters:
>
> > > > > > >http://www.inverse19mathematics.com/site/Welcome.html
>
> > > > > > > Vinoo Cameron and Thomas Ellenbecker... Professor Edgar E Escultur...
> > > > > > > us, raw mathematicians at Hope Research... Vinoo Cameron M.D CHCQM,
> > > > > > > Theo Denotter, Hope Research...
>
> > > > > > > Hope Research
> > > > > > > Principal Research Discoverers:
> > > > > > > Vinoo Cameron
> > > > > > > Theo den Otter
>
> > > > > > > Associates Prime Researchers:
> > > > > > > John Daniels (Inverse Law)
> > > > > > > Tod Kittel (Topological Research)
>
> > > > > > > Assentors:
> > > > > > > Dr. Gillian Battino, MD
> > > > > > > Dr. Christipher Cold, MD
> > > > > > > Matt Spaulding, Engineer
> > > > > > > Reed Hall
> > > > > > > Thomas Ellenbecker Jr.
>
> > > > > > > Edgar E. Escultura
> > > > > > > MathSciNet
> > > > > > > Ph.D. University of Wisconsin-Madison 1970
>
> > > > > > > Theo den Otter
> > > > > > > Owner, denotter's repair
> > > > > > > Wausau, Wisconsin Area
>
> > > > > > Anybody living in Wisconsin, perhaps give the clinic a ring? They
> > > > > > should clearly be notified if one of their physicians
> > > > > > (a family physician nonetheless) seems to be delusional or psychotic,
> > > > > > and may be unfit to carry out his duties. This will probably
> > > > > > need serious investigation on the clinic's part.
>
> > > > > > The problem is that it's not clear that the Vinoo Cameron on Usenet is
> > > > > > the actual Vinoo Cameron
> > > > > > and not someone willfully impersonating him for the purpose of
> > > > > > tarnishing his reputation.
>
> > > > > Exactly what I fear too. May be worth it to call these people and find
> > > > > out if they are aware of this situation.
>
> > > > Here's a phone number for Hope Clinic in Athens, WI, from the
> > > > internet:
>
> > > > 715-257-9900
>
> > > > Somebody should definitely help to call them and set this straight.
>
> > > I would also call the other people that this fellow mentions in his
> > > posts and inform them of what is being done to their good names.
>
> > > Look, if this guy claimed that there were 1 or 2 people involved - I
> > > could believe him. But with so many names mentioned - I may suspect
> > > that this loon is somebody else entirely and uses the good names of
> > > these people out of spite.
>
> > Yeah, the guy really does appear to be a loon. His posts are just
> > getting weirder and more incoherent
> > each time, like the distorted thoughts of someone who does need
> > serious psychiatric care.
>
> Either:
>
> A. He is indeed a practicing medical doctor, in which case his insane
> behaviour is dangerous to his patients
>
> or
>
> B. He is falsely impersonating and name-dropping these real-life
> Wisconsin doctors, in which case these doctors need to be notified of
> this impersonation, damage to their reputation and of possible bodily
> harm from a menacing crazy man. Why did he choose to impersonate
> them?

Who knows what drives insane people to do what they do. Either way,
it doesn't look good. Somebody should try to speak to those doctors,
or perhaps notify the local Athens, WI, law enforcement to investigate.
From: spudnik on
the Riemann hypothesis may be an aberration, but
you have to explain, why or what that is, so that
we can see "what it all means" --
meaning centuries of mathematical proving grounds.

thus:
that's an interesting anomaly;
how does it relate to the heliopause & so on?... and,
what is it about aether that causes it to entrain --
is that it's sole property?... well,
doctor Einstein's essay seems quite confuzed
about the electromegnetic properties of matter, but
that was a while before our standard textbookoid concepts
were put out from the Texas Schoolbook Suppository.

> It's an analogy. Your refusal to offer any evidence against the Sun's
> entrained aether ending around the orbit of Uranus being the reason
> for the Pioneer Effect is analogous to your insistence in flying
> wombats without providing evidence of any.

thus:
do you have the date of the essay by doctor Einstein?... it seems
that
you are agreeing with him "insofar as," but not really
with his penultimate conclusion -- that is,
whenver he was concluding what is sufficiently subtle as
to be not totally apparent without further thought. also,
he is giving a lot of credit to Lorentz, who may
be more responsible, after all, forr the time-space crack-up
than doctor Minkowski; can you say,
Useless fomalism?

however, the real problem is your persistent use
-- with whomever else from the past & future --
of the the concept of vacuum, as Pascal first thought of it,
which is really, strictly relative or active (as in,
That giant sucking sound, you hear, when you're trying
to read this ****).
> http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html

--Brit's hate Shakespeare, Why?
http://wlym.com/campaigner/8011.pdf
--Madame Rice is a Riceist, How?
http://larouchepub.com/other/2009/3650rice_racist.html
--The Riemannian Space of the Nucleus, What?
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles_2009/Relativistic_Moon...
--In perpetuity clause in healthcare bill, Where?
From: mike3 on
On Jan 3, 11:31 pm, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."
<ostap_bender_1...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
> Either:
>
> A. He is indeed a practicing medical doctor, in which case his insane
> behaviour is dangerous to his patients
>
> or
>
> B. He is falsely impersonating and name-dropping these real-life
> Wisconsin doctors, in which case these doctors need to be notified of
> this impersonation, damage to their reputation and of possible bodily
> harm from a menacing crazy man. Why did he choose to impersonate
> them?

Wow, you think some silly Usenet *math group* troll or crank or
whatever
is a menace to someone's life and limb?! How many other such silly
group
trolls/cranks/etc. do you think are such menaces to life and limb? Is
it
only when they do one of the two items you mention above or not?
From: mike3 on
On Jan 3, 11:31 pm, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."
<ostap_bender_1...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
> Either:
>
> A. He is indeed a practicing medical doctor, in which case his insane
> behaviour is dangerous to his patients
>
> or
>
> B. He is falsely impersonating and name-dropping these real-life
> Wisconsin doctors, in which case these doctors need to be notified of
> this impersonation, damage to their reputation and of possible bodily
> harm from a menacing crazy man. Why did he choose to impersonate
> them?

Wow, you think some silly Usenet *math group* troll or crank or
whatever
is a menace to someone's life and limb?! How many other such silly
group
trolls/cranks/etc. do you think are such menaces to life and limb? Is
it
only when they do one of the two items you mention above or not?