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From: Mark Allums on 6 Jul 2010 02:10 On 7/5/2010 5:40 PM, Jim McCloskey wrote: > > I recently acquired a new Dell Studio 15 laptop and mean to install > Debian (squeeze) on it. The machine has a 1.6GHz > Intel Quad Core processor and 6GB of RAM. The GPU is an ATI Mobility > Radeon (HD 5470) with 1GB of onboard memory. Do you not mean a 2.6 GHz CPU (rather than 1.6)? I would go with amd64. 32-bit Flash also runs on amd64, and flashplayer-mozilla from Debian-multimedia (rather than flashplugin-nonfree) installs everything you need. And though it seems to imply that it exists for iceweasel/firefox (or possibly epiphany) it works well with Chrome, too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4C32C80F.9000606(a)allums.com
From: Alan Chandler on 6 Jul 2010 02:40 On 05/07/10 23:40, Jim McCloskey wrote: > > I recently acquired a new Dell Studio 15 laptop and mean to install > Debian (squeeze) on it. I'm trying to decide whether to do a 64-bit > install (amd64) or a 32-bit install (i386). My understanding is that > the amd64 port is now very complete, and that the principal difficulty > would probably be with flashplayer (since Adobe withdrew the 64-bit > version of flashplayer 10 for linux). > > There seem to be various workarounds for this issue, but I was > wondering if the performance gain that one might expect from the > 64-bit architecture over the 32-bit architecture would be worth the > extra trouble entailed by these workarounds. The machine has a 1.6GHz > Intel Quad Core processor and 6GB of RAM. The GPU is an ATI Mobility > Radeon (HD 5470) with 1GB of onboard memory. > I have a (now) ageing Intel Core2 Duo machine as my Desktop which I originally installed the 64 bit version of Debian. I found these little work arounds annoying and just occasionally they didn't work. I had the opportunity after a disk upgrade to do a complete re-install and I chose to switch back to the 32 bit version. I haven't noticed any performance degradation and I just don't get any hassel from issues with flash etc. I only (sic) have 2GB memory - but again to be honest, I run mysql, postgres and a web server in the background (as well as the standard daemons such sshd and inetd) and I rarely even get to swap. I get the impression (but I haven't done any careful analysis) that the 32 bit stuff uses slightly less memory resources. My main (non surfing the net) activity is web development although I have done a bit of video editing The only downside I have had is that I recently was trying to install a 64 bit version of Debian on a server I have and accidently installed the 32 bit version from the install SD card I had made and had forgotten to label as 32 bit. -- Alan Chandler http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4C32CC68.7030002(a)chandlerfamily.org.uk
From: Stan Hoeppner on 6 Jul 2010 02:50 Mark put forth on 7/5/2010 11:51 PM: > I admire the OP's class in his response. Thought that comment about youtube > and pr0n was completely unnecessary and unsolicited when I read it. Dry humor doesn't include emoticons. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4C32CFC7.4060007(a)hardwarefreak.com
From: Ron Johnson on 6 Jul 2010 14:40 On 07/06/2010 01:40 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Mark put forth on 7/5/2010 11:51 PM: > >> I admire the OP's class in his response. Thought that comment about youtube >> and pr0n was completely unnecessary and unsolicited when I read it. > > Dry humor doesn't include emoticons. > "If you're that addicted to youtube and pr0n" is only dryly humorous among friends. -- Seek truth from facts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4C337712.7000001(a)cox.net
From: Γιώργος Πάλλας on 14 Jul 2010 15:10
On 07/06/2010 09:07 AM, Mark Allums wrote: > On 7/5/2010 5:40 PM, Jim McCloskey wrote: >> >> I recently acquired a new Dell Studio 15 laptop and mean to install >> Debian (squeeze) on it. > > The machine has a 1.6GHz >> Intel Quad Core processor and 6GB of RAM. The GPU is an ATI Mobility >> Radeon (HD 5470) with 1GB of onboard memory. > > > Do you not mean a 2.6 GHz CPU (rather than 1.6)? > > I would go with amd64. 32-bit Flash also runs on amd64, and > flashplayer-mozilla from Debian-multimedia (rather than > flashplugin-nonfree) installs everything you need. And though it > seems to imply that it exists for iceweasel/firefox (or possibly > epiphany) it works well with Chrome, too. > > > I would also go with amd64. I'm using 1 year now debian squeeze amd64 and never had a problem, except with skype where I had to do something with i32 libraries if I remember correct. But your question comes at the very day where upgrading my squeeze as I regularly do, I saw that flashplugin-nonfree disabled my flash!!! I just tried gnash and it doesn't work, and can't seem to find this flashplayer-mozilla on debian-multimedia*... G. * mordor:/home/gpall# grep multime /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze main mordor:/home/gpall# aptitude search flashplayer-mozilla mordor:/home/gpall# |