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From: Jim McCloskey on 5 Jul 2010 19:10 I recently acquired a new Dell Studio 15 laptop and mean to install Debian (squeeze) on it. I'm trying to decide whether to do a 64-bit install (amd64) or a 32-bit install (i386). My understanding is that the amd64 port is now very complete, and that the principal difficulty would probably be with flashplayer (since Adobe withdrew the 64-bit version of flashplayer 10 for linux). There seem to be various workarounds for this issue, but I was wondering if the performance gain that one might expect from the 64-bit architecture over the 32-bit architecture would be worth the extra trouble entailed by these workarounds. The machine has a 1.6GHz Intel Quad Core processor and 6GB of RAM. The GPU is an ATI Mobility Radeon (HD 5470) with 1GB of onboard memory. The laptop will be a work machine, but it will not be required to do 3D modelling or any intensive mathematical tasks (except maybe some statistical analysis and visualization with R, along with some audio analysis). If anyone here had advice to offer regarding this choice, I would very much appreciate hearing it, Thank you, Jim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100705224004.GA5928(a)ohlone
From: Stan Hoeppner on 5 Jul 2010 20:00 Jim McCloskey put forth on 7/5/2010 5:40 PM: > If anyone here had advice to offer regarding this choice, I would very > much appreciate hearing it, Allowing a single web plugin to dictate your course of action here is simply...sad. If you're that addicted to youtube and pr0n go with a 32bit kernel with PAE ("bigmem"), and be aware that any one application can only use 4GB of that 6GB, though the kernel can use it all. Best of luck. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4C3271B8.5090708(a)hardwarefreak.com
From: Celejar on 5 Jul 2010 20:20 On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 18:58:48 -0500 Stan Hoeppner <stan(a)hardwarefreak.com> wrote: > Jim McCloskey put forth on 7/5/2010 5:40 PM: > > > If anyone here had advice to offer regarding this choice, I would very > > much appreciate hearing it, > > Allowing a single web plugin to dictate your course of action here is > simply...sad. [I assume we're talking about flash.] Flash is not really required for Youtube; I actually have flash installed, but I hate using it, so I generally just grab the video with youtube-dl (or cclive) and play it with mplayer. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100705201144.e6640285.celejar(a)gmail.com
From: Kelly Clowers on 5 Jul 2010 20:40 On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 17:11, Celejar <celejar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 18:58:48 -0500 > Stan Hoeppner <stan(a)hardwarefreak.com> wrote: > >> Jim McCloskey put forth on 7/5/2010 5:40 PM: >> >> > If anyone here had advice to offer regarding this choice, I would very >> > much appreciate hearing it, >> >> Allowing a single web plugin to dictate your course of action here is >> simply...sad. > > [I assume we're talking about flash.] Â Flash is not really required for > Youtube; I actually have flash installed, but I hate using it, so I > generally just grab the video with youtube-dl (or cclive) and play it > with mplayer. And a fair number of Youtube videos are available in WebM now. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTim2JySHYhkWtTKajHnNxataRXahEUUqjd_sxyUZ(a)mail.gmail.com
From: Ron Johnson on 5 Jul 2010 20:50
On 07/05/2010 05:40 PM, Jim McCloskey wrote: > > I recently acquired a new Dell Studio 15 laptop and mean to install > Debian (squeeze) on it. I'm trying to decide whether to do a 64-bit > install (amd64) or a 32-bit install (i386). My understanding is that > the amd64 port is now very complete, and that the principal difficulty > would probably be with flashplayer (since Adobe withdrew the 64-bit > version of flashplayer 10 for linux). Won't be that difficult, actually, since a 64-bit system can run 32-bit plugins. What ever you do, go with either Iceweasel 3.6.4 from from Experimental, or v3.6.6 from upstream so that you can get plugin process separation. > > There seem to be various workarounds for this issue, but I was > wondering if the performance gain that one might expect from the > 64-bit architecture over the 32-bit architecture would be worth the > extra trouble entailed by these workarounds. The machine has a 1.6GHz > Intel Quad Core processor and 6GB of RAM. The GPU is an ATI Mobility > Radeon (HD 5470) with 1GB of onboard memory. The GPU (actually, which driver to use and get decent performance from it) would be my big concern. > The laptop will be a work machine, but it will not be required to do > 3D modelling or any intensive mathematical tasks (except maybe some > statistical analysis and visualization with R, along with some audio > analysis). > > If anyone here had advice to offer regarding this choice, I would very > much appreciate hearing it, > -- Seek truth from facts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4C327BD5.1050701(a)cox.net |