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From: Michael A. Terrell on 20 Dec 2008 11:02 John Devereux wrote: > > "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> writes: > > > John Devereux wrote: > >> > >> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> writes: > >> > >> > Eeyore wrote: > >> >> > >> >> How many of YOUR high power amplifiers are for sale in the shops and on ebay ? We've > >> >> made tens of thousands of them. > >> > > >> > > >> > Ebay? That surely speaks volumes about quality. Along with the used > >> > clothes, worn out tooling, and outright fraud. > >> > >> Yeah, all those old Tektronix scopes were clearly rubbish too. > > > > > > A lot on Ebay are. They are dumped by cal labs becasue they aren't > > worth fixing. > > They still fetch good prices because they were fine examples of > quality engineering. (And I don't think you will find many others > around here who would disagree). In most cases they need repaired & certified. A lot of parts are only available from other scrapped units. A junkyard is full of cars that may or may not have been worth buying. -- http://improve-usenet.org/index.html aioe.org, Goggle Groups, and Web TV users must request to be white listed, or I will not see your messages. If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm There are two kinds of people on this earth: The crazy, and the insane. The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy.
From: John Devereux on 20 Dec 2008 11:31 "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> writes: > John Devereux wrote: >> >> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> writes: >> >> > John Devereux wrote: >> >> >> >> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> writes: >> >> >> >> > Eeyore wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> How many of YOUR high power amplifiers are for sale in the shops and on ebay ? We've >> >> >> made tens of thousands of them. >> >> > >> >> > Ebay? That surely speaks volumes about quality. Along with the used >> >> > clothes, worn out tooling, and outright fraud. >> >> >> >> Yeah, all those old Tektronix scopes were clearly rubbish too. >> > >> > A lot on Ebay are. They are dumped by cal labs becasue they aren't >> > worth fixing. >> >> They still fetch good prices because they were fine examples of >> quality engineering. (And I don't think you will find many others >> around here who would disagree). > > In most cases they need repaired & certified. A lot of parts are only > available from other scrapped units. A junkyard is full of cars that > may or may not have been worth buying. The point - if it was not obvious - is that an appearance many years later on ebay does not imply the original design is not of high quality. -- John Devereux
From: John Larkin on 20 Dec 2008 12:02 On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 10:58:28 +0000, John Devereux <john(a)devereux.me.uk> wrote: >John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> writes: > >> On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:39:54 -0800, Capt. Cave Man >> <ItIsSoEasyACaveManCanDoIt(a)upyers.org> wrote: >> >>>On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 03:29:21 +0000, Eeyore >>><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>Now do the sums kiddie ! Heatsinking is an expert area that clearly no-one else >>>>here has much of a clue about. I've been studying it for over 30 years. >>>> >>>>Graham >>> >>> >>> You're an idiot. My last large sink product was a 1500W supply for a >>>CAT scanner for Philips. We used a custom extrusion >> >> >> What's amazing is that you can tool up a die and buy a truckload of >> custom extrusion for nearly the price of the aluminum, which may be a >> fifth the price you'd pay for a similar stock extrusion from a >> "heatsink" company. >> >> Ditto sheet metal. We can do a custom chassis, exactly the way we want >> it, with all the pems and spacers and connector holes and vents in >> place, and have it fabbed for less than buying an unfinished >> "standard" chassis. > >Do you mean for the external case, or an internal subassembly? > An entire rackmount enclosure, which is usually a folded/riveted pan, a flat front panel, and a top cover with, say, captive 1/4 turn fasteners. >> Weird. > >I have found this in other areas. We had a common "passive" LCD (8 >digit "triplexed") where we needed the polariser rotated 90 degrees >from their normal type (don't ask). Please tell us all about it! John
From: Eeyore on 20 Dec 2008 12:05 John Devereux wrote: > "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> writes: > > Eeyore wrote: > >> > >> How many of YOUR high power amplifiers are for sale in the shops and on ebay ? >> > We've made tens of thousands of them. > > > > > > Ebay? That surely speaks volumes about quality. Along with the used > > clothes, worn out tooling, and outright fraud. > > Yeah, all those old Tektronix scopes were clearly rubbish too. I sadly had to dispose of a couple of 545s. Just too big. Graham
From: Eeyore on 20 Dec 2008 12:08
John Devereux wrote: > "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> writes: > > John Devereux wrote: > >> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> writes: > >> > John Devereux wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Yeah, all those old Tektronix scopes were clearly rubbish too. > >> > > >> > A lot on Ebay are. They are dumped by cal labs becasue they aren't > >> > worth fixing. > >> > >> They still fetch good prices because they were fine examples of > >> quality engineering. (And I don't think you will find many others > >> around here who would disagree). > > > > In most cases they need repaired & certified. A lot of parts are only > > available from other scrapped units. A junkyard is full of cars that > > may or may not have been worth buying. > > The point - if it was not obvious - is that an appearance many years > later on ebay does not imply the original design is not of high > quality. You are 100% correct. Terrell has simply lost his mind, sight , hearing probably and any other useful faculty worth mentioning and only wants to spit bile. Graham |