From: JosephKK on
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:19:16 +0000, Raveninghorde <raveninghorde(a)invalid> wrote:

>On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:02:42 -0800, Robert Baer
><robertbaer(a)localnet.com> wrote:
>
>>Raveninghorde wrote:
>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:24:29 -0500, Rich Webb
>>> <bbew.ar(a)mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:06:10 +0000, Raveninghorde
>>>> <raveninghorde(a)invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How do you calculate MTBF?
>>>> For a component? For an entire system? 217 or Bellcore/Telcordia or ....
>>>>
>>>> The Wikipedia article isn't a bad place to start. If you're tasked with
>>>> doing a full-up parts-stress reliability prediction analysis, good luck!
>>>
>>> For a lithium ion battery charger.
>>>
>>> My brief post was a cry of despair. I ship these by the hundred. Now a
>>> BIG US company wants them and I get asked for a bucket load of
>>> information.
>>..as long as they PAY for the info and time to compile it.
>
>Nope. They would prefer the BOM and do the calculation themselves.
>Since I won't give the BOM it's down to me sort it out.

Basically it is the _statistical_ point where the root sum square failure rate
of the individual components becomes 50% probability.
From: Rich Webb on
On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:25:56 -0800, "JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:19:16 +0000, Raveninghorde <raveninghorde(a)invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:02:42 -0800, Robert Baer
>><robertbaer(a)localnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Raveninghorde wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:24:29 -0500, Rich Webb
>>>> <bbew.ar(a)mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:06:10 +0000, Raveninghorde
>>>>> <raveninghorde(a)invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you calculate MTBF?
>>>>> For a component? For an entire system? 217 or Bellcore/Telcordia or ...
>>>>>
>>>>> The Wikipedia article isn't a bad place to start. If you're tasked with
>>>>> doing a full-up parts-stress reliability prediction analysis, good luck!
>>>>
>>>> For a lithium ion battery charger.
>>>>
>>>> My brief post was a cry of despair. I ship these by the hundred. Now a
>>>> BIG US company wants them and I get asked for a bucket load of
>>>> information.
>>>..as long as they PAY for the info and time to compile it.
>>
>>Nope. They would prefer the BOM and do the calculation themselves.
>>Since I won't give the BOM it's down to me sort it out.
>
>Basically it is the _statistical_ point where the root sum square failure rate
>of the individual components becomes 50% probability.

Note that for the often used exponential distribution (applicable for a
constant failure rate), we will then have the reliability at time t as
R(t) = exp(-t/MTBF). So the probability that any one component actually
survives to its MTBF is only about 37%.

--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA