From: kadhiem_ayob on 1 Jul 2010 11:12 Hi All, I am developing a carrier tracking module for 16QAM receiver based on Costas loop on an fpga platform. Tracking works well on either side of zero frequency and over zero if crossing rate is several seconds or minutes apart. However it loses lock and relocks if zero crossing rate is few seconds apart. Is this acceptable to an average RF expectations or do you think I can improve on it. Regards kadhiem --------------------------------------- Posted through http://www.FPGARelated.com
From: kadhiem_ayob on 2 Jul 2010 17:04 To further explain my problem: I use an NCO to generate stimulus of cos/sin pair, multiply with the QAM i/q symbols...then track the carrier as I change the NCO frequency in steps. When crossing zero frequency, tracking manages first few crosses then may fail but relocks. Looking at the waveforms at zero crossing point, I get into some doubts about my understanding in principle. I know we can get negative frequency from positive frequency by inverting the sine wave or by reading the LUT in reverse time. These two ways are not identical at the crossing point. My tracking is based on reversing LUT for -f and so is my NCO. With reverse LUT reading, I notice that phase can suffer variation at the crossing; for example if I hit the mid-poit of a symmetrical section of waves then read back to get -f then the continuity looks best. At other extreme I could be before the peak of cosine only to reverse back leading to anything between 0 ~ 360 phase variation of negative pair with respect to positive pair. The question is how can I expect tracking not to fail with such phase variation. Or in other words; how does a real RF upconverter/downconverter link final frequency cross the zero and how to model it best? Regards kadhiem --------------------------------------- Posted through http://www.FPGARelated.com
From: kadhiem_ayob on 3 Jul 2010 09:51 I believe I finally sorted out the issue thanks to Matlab. A LUT based approach for frquency synthesis is ok for positive or negative frequency synthesis. However it is very glitchy at zero cross over. The right model is to generate 2 frequencies(one drifting down, the other up so that they criss-cross). The two frequency sources are then multiplied together to produce proper vector for zero crossing. Regards kadhiem --------------------------------------- Posted through http://www.FPGARelated.com
From: glen herrmannsfeldt on 3 Jul 2010 13:03 kadhiem_ayob <kadhiem_ayob(a)n_o_s_p_a_m.n_o_s_p_a_m.yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > I believe I finally sorted out the issue thanks to Matlab. > A LUT based approach for frquency synthesis is ok for positive or negative > frequency synthesis. However it is very glitchy at zero cross over. The > right model is to generate 2 frequencies(one drifting down, the other up so > that they criss-cross). The two frequency sources are then multiplied > together to produce proper vector for zero crossing. Reminds me of an HP signal generator, I believe 3325B, which uses a combination of frequency generators and mixers to generate the range of frequencies from 1uHz to 20.999999999 MHz. I used to know more of the details about how it works, but part rembering and part looking on the web, it generates 30MHz more than the desired frequency, and then mixes down for the resulting output. -- glen
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