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From: Archimedes Plutonium on 23 Apr 2010 01:35 Archimedes Plutonium wrote: (all snipped except this) > --- quoting Wikipedia on redshift --- > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshift > > Redshifts are attributable to three different physical effects. The > first discovered was the Doppler effect, familiar in the changes in > the apparent pitches of sirens and frequency of the sound waves > emitted by speeding vehicles; an observed redshift due to the Doppler > effect occurs whenever a light source moves away from an observer. > Cosmological redshift is seen due to the expansion of the universe, > and sufficiently distant light sources (generally more than a few > million light years away) show redshift corresponding to the rate of > increase of their distance from Earth. Finally, gravitational > redshifts are a relativistic effect observed in electromagnetic > radiation moving out of gravitational fields. Conversely, a decrease > in wavelength is called blue shift and is generally seen when a light- > emitting object moves toward an observer or when electromagnetic > radiation moves into a gravitational field. > > --- end quoting Wikipedia --- So if we can have a gravitational lensing producing redshifts, why not have electromagnetic Coulombs force lensing of holding together a Cosmic atom? EM holding together the electrons to the protons. With EM lensing there is no need for space to be in rapid motion, rather instead, Space is motionless. And there is never a worry or mystery as to how any physics can have a Space traveling at speed of light, while its galaxies are traveling at what speed? If there ever was an Occam's razor of reasoning, surely, it is far more plausible to have slow moving galaxies in motionless Space and the redshift due to a bent Space. Surely that scenario is far easier and compelling than the scenario of a Space independent of the matter, travelling upwards and beyond the speed of light, and reliant on 2D geometry, to give a Doppler redshift. There is a good reason that Big Bang theorists never discuss 3D elliptic geometry. Because their theory fails. They only talk about 2D elliptic geometry where Space has no edges and no center and where every point on the surface of the sphere is moving away from all other points. But everyone knows that Space is not 2D. Everyone knows Space is 3D. The Big Bang does not work in 3D Euclidean nor does it work in 3D Elliptic. But the Atom Totality theory explanation of the redshift works in all geometries. In 3D Elliptic there is an edge and a center to the Universe. But matter is confined in 3D Elliptic. The 3rd dimension in 3D Elliptic is a lens that covers 12 faces of a dodecahedron. Whether there are 12 lens for the Poincare Dodecahedral Space I am not sure of. Instead of the face being a flat pentagon, the face is a lens. And the galaxies reside in these lens. So as the light from one galaxy travels through this lens to reach another galaxy, it is refracted and thus redshifted. The pros and cons of the Big Bang redshift : Pros (a) does predict a redshift since everything is moving away from each other Cons (a) is stuck with only a 2D explanation, yet space is definitely 3D (b) separates Space from Matter as independent entities (c) must impart galaxies with speeds up to and surpassing that of light (d) resonance theory says that galaxies whether imparted with speed of light or are carried by Space with speed of light, that these galaxies would disintegrate. Pros and cons of the Atom Totality redshift : Pros (a) natural offshoot of gravitational lensing is a EM lensing of the atom held together by a nucleus (b) offers a 3D explanation as a lens on the surface of a sphere (c) makes Space and time a continuum and not separate entities (d) has all galaxies with slow speeds and with Space as motionless Cons (a) there are no cons since it fits the data Archimedes Plutonium http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium/ whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |