From: John Larkin on 25 May 2010 13:28 Most cool: http://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/NSI45020-D.PDF I've been wanting constant-current ICs for years. They are finally starting to happen. This is 51 cents, q1. John
From: Jim Thompson on 25 May 2010 13:38 On Tue, 25 May 2010 10:28:42 -0700, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >Most cool: > >http://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/NSI45020-D.PDF > >I've been wanting constant-current ICs for years. They are finally >starting to happen. > >This is 51 cents, q1. > >John Fig 2 is pretty gross. Lousy headroom design. Sheeesh! ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | The only thing bipartisan in this country is hypocrisy
From: whit3rd on 25 May 2010 13:59 On May 25, 10:28 am, John Larkin <jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > http://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/NSI45020-D.PDF > > I've been wanting constant-current ICs for years. They are finally > starting to happen. Current-regulator diodes aren't new. Siliconix was making 'em a decade or more ago (just gate-source shorted JFETs). J500 series and CR200 etc. were part numbers. A grounded-base transistor with emitter resistor to negative supply is cheaper and can do a wider range of currents than a fixed diode.
From: Jan Panteltje on 25 May 2010 14:07 On a sunny day (Tue, 25 May 2010 10:28:42 -0700) it happened John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in <p22ov5d4ju2fn3pf69ttkvqru1s5aumsqe(a)4ax.com>: > >Most cool: > >http://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/NSI45020-D.PDF > >I've been wanting constant-current ICs for years. They are finally >starting to happen. > >This is 51 cents, q1. > >John These dat 20 mA is a bit high for LEDs used as indicator. I have some green ones now at 3.3V with 33k (!) in series, the LEDs drop 2.38 and 2.44 V, so that makes .92 and .86 V over the resistors, giving a current of about 28 uA, good visibiliy in bright room light, JUST not blinding when you look directly into it. ftp://panteltje.com/pub/low_current_LEDs_img_1964.jpg The blue one is on 10% PWM with 180 Ohm in series on 3.3 V. That current source product may not sell. Resistors are cheaper.
From: Spehro Pefhany on 25 May 2010 14:17 On Tue, 25 May 2010 18:07:59 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On a sunny day (Tue, 25 May 2010 10:28:42 -0700) it happened John Larkin ><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in ><p22ov5d4ju2fn3pf69ttkvqru1s5aumsqe(a)4ax.com>: > >> >>Most cool: >> >>http://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/NSI45020-D.PDF >> >>I've been wanting constant-current ICs for years. They are finally >>starting to happen. >> >>This is 51 cents, q1. >> >>John > >These dat 20 mA is a bit high for LEDs used as indicator. >I have some green ones now at 3.3V with 33k (!) in series, >the LEDs drop 2.38 and 2.44 V, so that makes .92 and .86 V over >the resistors, giving a current of about 28 uA, good visibiliy >in bright room light, JUST not blinding when you look directly into it. > ftp://panteltje.com/pub/low_current_LEDs_img_1964.jpg >The blue one is on 10% PWM with 180 Ohm in series on 3.3 V. >That current source product may not sell. >Resistors are cheaper. They appear to be aiming this at automotive applications where you have a big difference in voltages depending on whether the engine is operating or not-- especially important when you subtract a series string of LED Vfs from it. Limited application area, but huge potential in terms of picoacres* of silicon sold. * 5mils x 5mils ~= 4 picoacres.
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