From: JosephKK on
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:21:24 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:22:15 -0800, John Larkin
><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>
>>OK, I just got the first board from production this morning, for this
>>spectroscopy controller thing.
>>
>>ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/First.JPG
>>
>>It gets 12 volts in, which runs an LTM8023 switcher brick to make 3.3
>>volts. The 3.3 runs most of the logic on the board (including a
>>Spartan 6 and a PLX PCIe bridge, both BGAs) and also drives four
>>secondary switchers and some LDOs to make 1.2, 1.5, 1.8, 2.5, and -5
>>for various uses.
>>
>>So when I powered it up everything went nuts. The PLX chip was
>>obviously fried. After that was pulled, the Xilinx was running hot,
>>and the 3.3 volt supply was bogged down to about 2.6. The LTM
>>regulator was hot.
>>
>>Pulled the Spartan BGA next.
>>
>>Now the 3.3 volt rail wants to run at 5 or so.
>>
>>After much head scratching, I discovered this:
>>
>>ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/Swapped.jpg
>>
>>The resistor that's screened "R127" is actually R129. And vice versa.
>>So the switcher was programmed wrong, told to run at an absurdly low
>>frequency and an absurdly high voltage. The ref designators somehow
>>got misplaced during layout. We usually check for this.
>>
>>Apparently our production people, when semi-auto placing dense parts,
>>double-check the ref designator and plop the part into the "correct"
>>place, even if the machine coordinates are a little off. I'll have to
>>warn them to be suspicious about cases like this, especially on first
>>articles.
>>
>>TGIF
>>
>>John
>>
>>
>
>OK, we fixed the power supply and replaced both BGA chips.
>
>ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/First_Light.jpg
>
>On the aluminum plate is the Kontron SBC, running Linux. It connects
>to our controller board through the short silver PCI Express jumper
>cable.
>
>So far, it's powered up, things look reasonable, and we have Linux
>talking to the PCIe chip. Next step is to get the FPGA configured and
>doing stuff.
>
>The NewHaven LCD looks real nice. The Kontron is talking to it RS-232,
>with a little AVR processor on the user interface board handling the
>LCD and buttons and LEDs.
>
>John
>
Interesting power distribution used there.
From: John Larkin on
On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 04:40:38 -0800,
"JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:21:24 -0800, John Larkin
><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:22:15 -0800, John Larkin
>><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>>
>>>OK, I just got the first board from production this morning, for this
>>>spectroscopy controller thing.
>>>
>>>ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/First.JPG
>>>
>>>It gets 12 volts in, which runs an LTM8023 switcher brick to make 3.3
>>>volts. The 3.3 runs most of the logic on the board (including a
>>>Spartan 6 and a PLX PCIe bridge, both BGAs) and also drives four
>>>secondary switchers and some LDOs to make 1.2, 1.5, 1.8, 2.5, and -5
>>>for various uses.
>>>
>>>So when I powered it up everything went nuts. The PLX chip was
>>>obviously fried. After that was pulled, the Xilinx was running hot,
>>>and the 3.3 volt supply was bogged down to about 2.6. The LTM
>>>regulator was hot.
>>>
>>>Pulled the Spartan BGA next.
>>>
>>>Now the 3.3 volt rail wants to run at 5 or so.
>>>
>>>After much head scratching, I discovered this:
>>>
>>>ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/Swapped.jpg
>>>
>>>The resistor that's screened "R127" is actually R129. And vice versa.
>>>So the switcher was programmed wrong, told to run at an absurdly low
>>>frequency and an absurdly high voltage. The ref designators somehow
>>>got misplaced during layout. We usually check for this.
>>>
>>>Apparently our production people, when semi-auto placing dense parts,
>>>double-check the ref designator and plop the part into the "correct"
>>>place, even if the machine coordinates are a little off. I'll have to
>>>warn them to be suspicious about cases like this, especially on first
>>>articles.
>>>
>>>TGIF
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>>
>>
>>OK, we fixed the power supply and replaced both BGA chips.
>>
>>ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/First_Light.jpg
>>
>>On the aluminum plate is the Kontron SBC, running Linux. It connects
>>to our controller board through the short silver PCI Express jumper
>>cable.
>>
>>So far, it's powered up, things look reasonable, and we have Linux
>>talking to the PCIe chip. Next step is to get the FPGA configured and
>>doing stuff.
>>
>>The NewHaven LCD looks real nice. The Kontron is talking to it RS-232,
>>with a little AVR processor on the user interface board handling the
>>LCD and buttons and LEDs.
>>
>>John
>>
>Interesting power distribution used there.


We're using an external 12 volt supply and one of these

http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/sc.8/category.13/.f

which plugs into the mini-ITX processor board. Switched +12 and +5
come out of it and power our spectrosopy board (which has 5 more
switchers and 3 linear regs of its own) and has power distribution for
the hard drives. Seems to work.

This instrument is basically a PC, but we don't want it to look like a
PC. Most PCs are wiring hairballs inside.

That AC powered fan is temporary. We'll use a temperature-controlled
DC fan in the real rackmount box. The Kontron has a connector for
that.

John

From: JosephKK on
On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:46:30 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 04:40:38 -0800,
>"JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:21:24 -0800, John Larkin
>><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:22:15 -0800, John Larkin
>>><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>OK, I just got the first board from production this morning, for this
>>>>spectroscopy controller thing.
>>>>
>>>>ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/First.JPG
>>>>
>>>>It gets 12 volts in, which runs an LTM8023 switcher brick to make 3.3
>>>>volts. The 3.3 runs most of the logic on the board (including a
>>>>Spartan 6 and a PLX PCIe bridge, both BGAs) and also drives four
>>>>secondary switchers and some LDOs to make 1.2, 1.5, 1.8, 2.5, and -5
>>>>for various uses.
>>>>
>>>>So when I powered it up everything went nuts. The PLX chip was
>>>>obviously fried. After that was pulled, the Xilinx was running hot,
>>>>and the 3.3 volt supply was bogged down to about 2.6. The LTM
>>>>regulator was hot.
>>>>
>>>>Pulled the Spartan BGA next.
>>>>
>>>>Now the 3.3 volt rail wants to run at 5 or so.
>>>>
>>>>After much head scratching, I discovered this:
>>>>
>>>>ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/Swapped.jpg
>>>>
>>>>The resistor that's screened "R127" is actually R129. And vice versa.
>>>>So the switcher was programmed wrong, told to run at an absurdly low
>>>>frequency and an absurdly high voltage. The ref designators somehow
>>>>got misplaced during layout. We usually check for this.
>>>>
>>>>Apparently our production people, when semi-auto placing dense parts,
>>>>double-check the ref designator and plop the part into the "correct"
>>>>place, even if the machine coordinates are a little off. I'll have to
>>>>warn them to be suspicious about cases like this, especially on first
>>>>articles.
>>>>
>>>>TGIF
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>OK, we fixed the power supply and replaced both BGA chips.
>>>
>>>ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/First_Light.jpg
>>>
>>>On the aluminum plate is the Kontron SBC, running Linux. It connects
>>>to our controller board through the short silver PCI Express jumper
>>>cable.
>>>
>>>So far, it's powered up, things look reasonable, and we have Linux
>>>talking to the PCIe chip. Next step is to get the FPGA configured and
>>>doing stuff.
>>>
>>>The NewHaven LCD looks real nice. The Kontron is talking to it RS-232,
>>>with a little AVR processor on the user interface board handling the
>>>LCD and buttons and LEDs.
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>Interesting power distribution used there.
>
>
>We're using an external 12 volt supply and one of these
>
>http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/sc.8/category.13/.f
>
>which plugs into the mini-ITX processor board. Switched +12 and +5
>come out of it and power our spectrosopy board (which has 5 more
>switchers and 3 linear regs of its own) and has power distribution for
>the hard drives. Seems to work.
>
>This instrument is basically a PC, but we don't want it to look like a
>PC. Most PCs are wiring hairballs inside.
>
>That AC powered fan is temporary. We'll use a temperature-controlled
>DC fan in the real rackmount box. The Kontron has a connector for
>that.
>
>John

Kinda cute. Nice to know such exists.
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