From: notbob on
On 2010-06-10, Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist(a)deadspam.com> wrote:

> 1) You are able to partition the storage media into different partitions
> 2) You are able to format the storage media with a different file system
> like reiserfs
> 3) You are able to fsck a file system which you messed up because you
> forgot to umount the camera before disconnecting it.

Why would I use a dedicated camera application to do any of those
things when my computer can do the same thing by itself?

> The PTP interface also gives you a few extra features:

> 1) Your computer is able to control your camera to capture an image
> 2) Your computer is able to control your camera to capture a movie
> 3) Your computer is able to control your camera to capture sound

Why would I carry around a computer to do what my camera is capable of
doing by itself.

Yer weird.

nb

From: John F. Morse on
Henrik Carlqvist wrote:
> "John F. Morse" <john(a)example.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>>>> One other neat image utility for batch processing and more is
>>>>>> ImageMagick.
>>>>>>
>
> Yes, ImageMagick is great for batch processing, for that purpose the cli
> program convert is usually used.
>


That is what I use.


>>>> It opens in the ~/ directory, but you cannot select then click "Open"
>>>> on a sub-directory, nor simply double-click to open a sub-directory.
>>>>
>
> Doubleclick on sub directories in the ImageMagick display utility works
> for me. It then opens that directory and shows its files and next level
> sub directories. To get back to the previos level there is a button "Up"
> and there is also a button "Home" which I don't really understand. Mostly
> it takes you to ~ as expected, but at some occasions it seems to take me
> to some other default directory.
>


Earlier this didn't work like it should. However it does work on this
(different) computer.

It is ImageMagick with Display version 6.3.7 06/04/09 Q16

I re-checked the computer that I used earlier and it has the same version.

Now it too works by double-clicking a directory to move deeper. Don't
know what the earlier problem was, but that computer was shut down then
rebooted a few hours later.


>> It is the ImageMagick file manager (browser) that didn't allow drilling
>> deeper into the directory structure with mouse clicking. I had to
>> manually type the longer path and file information to get into lower
>> directories.
>>
>
> Why do you want to use the display utility to process images? If you want
> to use point and click I would prefer some program which from the
> beginning was meant to be point and click. Gimp is great for such a
> purpose and xv might also be useful. ImageMagick is great for command line
> batch processing of images.
>
> If you think that it hurts to put your foot behind your neck you shouldn't
> put your foot behind your neck. If you think that ImageMagick is bad for
> your use you should find another tool for your use or edit the
> configuration files for ImageMagick to make it better fit your use. In the
> Linux world all those files ending with .c are configuration files giving
> you control without limits.
>
> regards Henrik
>

I think you misunderstood my previous messages, Henrik.

I am the one who mentioned ImageMagick as a great tool for the purposes
the OP needed.

I have no problems with ImageMagick, except the file browser wasn't
"mouse friendly" as I first found it in the "Display" program. It
wouldn't "double-click" and I could not use it to drill deeper in the
directory structure to select an image. But as I mentioned above, it now
works as designed.

I use the GIMP for image modification, but ImageMagick is my preferred
graphic suite for batch processing using the "convert" program.

I don't have any configuration files for ImageMagick (per "sudo
locate"). In what directory do you find them on your system?

Thanks for verifying that drilling down with a mouse worked for you. It
made me take another look, and I discovered ImageMagick worked as it should.


--
John

When a person has -- whether they knew it or not -- already rejected the Truth, by what means do they discern a lie?
From: Cousin Stanley on

> ....
> Thanks for the tip, Cuz. ;-)

You're welcome, John ....

For me the the ImageMagick [ display | click | menu ] sequence
is handy for quick editing/processing of a file or three, but
I also use the convert function sometimes along with shell
scripts or python for batch processing ....

The following link for ImageMagick usage examples
is very informative but you need to pack at least
a couple of months worth of lunches to get through
it all .... :-)

http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/


--
Stanley C. Kitching
Human Being
Phoenix, Arizona

From: Henrik Carlqvist on
"John F. Morse" <john(a)example.invalid> wrote:
> I don't have any configuration files for ImageMagick (per "sudo
> locate"). In what directory do you find them on your system?

The .c configuration files that I mentioned was kind of a joke. They are
located in
ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.1/source/xap/imagemagick/ImageMagick-6.5.9-6.tar.xz
which also is included on your Slackware media in the source directory.
Editing those "configuration" files does require some programming skills,
but if you really feel the need to get a bug fixed or add a new feature
you do have the freedom to fix it yourself.

Good to hear that this particular problem got fixed by itself.

regards Henrik
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From: Henrik Carlqvist on
notbob <notbob(a)nothome.com> wrote:
> Why would I use a dedicated camera application to do any of those things
> when my computer can do the same thing by itself?

Why do you prefer to use the 4 applications mount, cp, rm and umount
instead of the single application gphoto2?

Maybe you do not access your camera from the cli, but then still, why do
you prefer to use a graphical program like konqueror instead of digikam?

Yes, sometimes it might be convenient to use the disk interface,
especially if you are unfortunate enough to be at a computer not having
gphoto2 installed.

There are also occasions when I use stuff like

cat - > file.txt

to edit a text file. This might be when I am at some computer which
doesn't have emacs or vi installed. The fact that I am almost allways able
to use the "standard" application cat does not mean that cat is my
prefered tool to edit text files.

>> The PTP interface also gives you a few extra features:
....

> Why would I carry around a computer to do what my camera is capable of
> doing by itself.

Is your camera able to by itself have a cron job take a picture every day
at 11:43 am?

Computers are used to automate tasks, using the right interface they also
get useful to automate tasks with your camera.

regards Henrik
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