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From: Joe on 7 Jul 2010 15:11
Phil Howard wrote:
>
> No. Clearly not the case. Ubuntu is an example which interferes with
> Postfix. I'm trying to determine if others are more or less so. I
> suspect at least some surely must be less so.
>

No FUD please. I've deployed smtp servers running hpux, solaris,
slackware, redhat, fedora, SuSE, debian, ubuntu and others - as someone
just pointed out, having some knowledge of the platform you're running
postfix on is rather important.

I currently run a number of production mail servers on ubuntu LTS and
have never seen any of the problems you're struggling with.

Joe

From: Phil Howard on 7 Jul 2010 15:13
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 15:00, Scott Kitterman <postfix(a)kitterman.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 07, 2010 14:42:29 Phil Howard wrote:
>
>> Ubuntu works reasonably OK with everything else I've used on it.
>> Problem exist with Postfix on it.  They've said to address it with
>> Postfix.  I personally think the specific problems are more of how
>> Ubuntu handles Postfix poorly.  One issue (which may be part of the
>> problem) is the Postfix package in Ubuntu being an older one.
>
> No.  It really doesn't.  If you don't understand how to use your distro
> package management system, you should seek help in a distro specific venue.

BTDT. They say it's not a distro specific issue. I don't know if I
agree with them or not. But I am considering abandoning that distro.
If Postfix people's experience was that the distro does not have such
issues with Postfix, then it might be worthwhile pursuing that issue
with them (the distro people) further. Quite possibly it is the
person who makes the Postfix package not doing thing right with
respect to either Postfix and/or Ubuntu.

But I might also seek another distro. It has already been said here
that I should run the latest version of Postfix. That would be
compiling from source since the latest is not packaged in the distro.
In general, that's not a problem. But it is to a certain degree a
problem in some distros (and why this is, certainly is not a Postfix
issue ... I have experienced the problem with other than Postfix).
I'm just saying that so you know why I'm also looking away from Ubuntu
(please do not assume I am asking you to fix those Ubuntu issues).

How about simply, which distro various Postfix users are running?

--
sHiFt HaPpEnS!

From: Gary Chambers on 7 Jul 2010 15:14
> No.  Clearly not the case.  Ubuntu is an example which interferes with
> Postfix.  I'm trying to determine if others are more or less so.  I
> suspect at least some surely must be less so.

Why not simply avoid whatever hassles you're encountering with your
distribution's version of the software and compile your own? I'd like
PostgreSQL support in Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS, but I didn't come to
the list to ask for it.

-- Gary Chambers

/* Nothing fancy and nothing Microsoft! */

From: Phil Howard on 7 Jul 2010 15:14
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 15:11, Joe <joe(a)tmsusa.com> wrote:

> I currently run a number of production mail servers on ubuntu LTS and
> have never seen any of the problems you're struggling with.

Are you using the packaged version of Postfix, or the source you
compile yourself?

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From: Phil Howard on 7 Jul 2010 15:20
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 15:14, Gary Chambers <gwchamb(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> No.  Clearly not the case.  Ubuntu is an example which interferes with
>> Postfix.  I'm trying to determine if others are more or less so.  I
>> suspect at least some surely must be less so.
>
> Why not simply avoid whatever hassles you're encountering with your
> distribution's version of the software and compile your own?  I'd like
> PostgreSQL support in Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS, but I didn't come to
> the list to ask for it.

Compiling my own is indeed an option. But to get there, I have to
make the commitment to jump distributions (because of distribution
specific issues that are not Postfix specific). The question (not to
this list ... one I have to find the answer to, which is going to
involve collecting information from a number of sources) is whether
that approach will involve the least issues compared to other
approaches (such as staying with this distro, or using another, etc).

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