From: Joe Matise on
VARCHAR is a SQL data type. SAS has character variables, just not called
VARCHAR. If you're noting that SAS doesn't have variable length characters,
look at COMPRESS dataset/system option; make your characters long enough,
and then COMPRESS will make the space that wasn't being used go away. SAS
doesn't natively do this, presumably for reasons of simplicity of storage
[knowing how big each row is ahead of time allows it to specify how much
storage space to use].

-Joe

On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Wensui Liu <liuwensui(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> i couldn't find any evidence that sas/base supports varchar data type.
> a little surprise though.
> any insight or experience?
>
> thank you so much and have a happy 2010!
>
From: Wensui Liu on
joe
varchar is character data type of indeterminate length. try this
proc sql;
create table test(TEXT varchar);
insert into test values('1234567890');
quit;


On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Joe Matise <snoopy369(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> VARCHAR is a SQL data type. SAS has character variables, just not called
> VARCHAR. If you're noting that SAS doesn't have variable length characters,
> look at COMPRESS dataset/system option; make your characters long enough,
> and then COMPRESS will make the space that wasn't being used go away. SAS
> doesn't natively do this, presumably for reasons of simplicity of storage
> [knowing how big each row is ahead of time allows it to specify how much
> storage space to use].
>
> -Joe
>
> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Wensui Liu <liuwensui(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> i couldn't find any evidence that sas/base supports varchar data type.
>> a little surprise though.
>> any insight or experience?
>>
>> thank you so much and have a happy 2010!
>
>



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From: Joe Matise on
I know that. Reread my post, the bit after the second sentence. SAS has
ways of approaching this, but does not [for, I believe, the reason I stated]
simply allow undefined length character.

-Joe

On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Wensui Liu <liuwensui(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> joe
> varchar is character data type of indeterminate length. try this
> proc sql;
> create table test(TEXT varchar);
> insert into test values('1234567890');
> quit;
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Joe Matise <snoopy369(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > VARCHAR is a SQL data type. SAS has character variables, just not called
> > VARCHAR. If you're noting that SAS doesn't have variable length
> characters,
> > look at COMPRESS dataset/system option; make your characters long enough,
> > and then COMPRESS will make the space that wasn't being used go away.
> SAS
> > doesn't natively do this, presumably for reasons of simplicity of storage
> > [knowing how big each row is ahead of time allows it to specify how much
> > storage space to use].
> >
> > -Joe
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Wensui Liu <liuwensui(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> i couldn't find any evidence that sas/base supports varchar data type.
> >> a little surprise though.
> >> any insight or experience?
> >>
> >> thank you so much and have a happy 2010!
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> ==============================
> WenSui Liu
> Blog : statcompute.spaces.live.com
> Tough Times Never Last. But Tough People Do. - Robert Schuller
> ==============================
>
From: Arthur Tabachneck on
Wensui,

Take a look at:
http://books.google.ca/books?
id=uZYn6unDVtoC&pg=PT688&lpg=PT688&dq=sas+equivalent+varchar&source=bl&ots=r
0a99KO47m&sig=6o_TIGSeiCe5-YdGy5-qnAcKqsw&hl=en&ei=lcg-
S6vdLszJlAfJu8yjBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CA4Q6AEwAQ#v=
onepage&q=sas%20equivalent%20varchar&f=false

or, in short form: http://xrl.us/bgrsyh

Art
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On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 22:46:44 -0500, Wensui Liu <liuwensui(a)GMAIL.COM> wrote:

>joe
>varchar is character data type of indeterminate length. try this
>proc sql;
>create table test(TEXT varchar);
>insert into test values('1234567890');
>quit;
>
>
>On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Joe Matise <snoopy369(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> VARCHAR is a SQL data type. SAS has character variables, just not called
>> VARCHAR. If you're noting that SAS doesn't have variable length
characters,
>> look at COMPRESS dataset/system option; make your characters long enough,
>> and then COMPRESS will make the space that wasn't being used go away.
SAS
>> doesn't natively do this, presumably for reasons of simplicity of storage
>> [knowing how big each row is ahead of time allows it to specify how much
>> storage space to use].
>>
>> -Joe
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Wensui Liu <liuwensui(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> i couldn't find any evidence that sas/base supports varchar data type.
>>> a little surprise though.
>>> any insight or experience?
>>>
>>> thank you so much and have a happy 2010!
>>
>>
>
>
>
>--
>==============================
>WenSui Liu
>Blog : statcompute.spaces.live.com
>Tough Times Never Last. But Tough People Do. - Robert Schuller
>==============================
From: Wensui Liu on
as always, thank you so much, art!
see the following code. is there a generic way to read the full string
into table without specify the length?

proc sql;
CREATE TABLE test(TEXT varchar);
insert into test values ('1234567890');
quit;

On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Arthur Tabachneck <art297(a)netscape.net> wrote:
> Wensui,
>
> Take a look at:
> http://books.google.ca/books?
> id=uZYn6unDVtoC&pg=PT688&lpg=PT688&dq=sas+equivalent+varchar&source=bl&ots=r
> 0a99KO47m&sig=6o_TIGSeiCe5-YdGy5-qnAcKqsw&hl=en&ei=lcg-
> S6vdLszJlAfJu8yjBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CA4Q6AEwAQ#v=
> onepage&q=sas%20equivalent%20varchar&f=false
>
> or, in short form: http://xrl.us/bgrsyh
>
> Art
> -------
> On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 22:46:44 -0500, Wensui Liu <liuwensui(a)GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
>>joe
>>varchar is character data type of indeterminate length. try this
>>proc sql;
>>create table test(TEXT varchar);
>>insert into test values('1234567890');
>>quit;
>>
>>
>>On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Joe Matise <snoopy369(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> VARCHAR is a SQL data type. SAS has character variables, just not called
>>> VARCHAR. If you're noting that SAS doesn't have variable length
> characters,
>>> look at COMPRESS dataset/system option; make your characters long enough,
>>> and then COMPRESS will make the space that wasn't being used go away.
> SAS
>>> doesn't natively do this, presumably for reasons of simplicity of storage
>>> [knowing how big each row is ahead of time allows it to specify how much
>>> storage space to use].
>>>
>>> -Joe
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Wensui Liu <liuwensui(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> i couldn't find any evidence that sas/base supports varchar data type.
>>>> a little surprise though.
>>>> any insight or experience?
>>>>
>>>> thank you so much and have a happy 2010!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>==============================
>>WenSui Liu
>>Blog : statcompute.spaces.live.com
>>Tough Times Never Last. But Tough People Do. - Robert Schuller
>>==============================
>



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Tough Times Never Last. But Tough People Do. - Robert Schuller
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