From: alfons de wolf on
I was looking on the internet
for the HARDWARE-replacement of old 3"1/2 floppy drives in
PC's running CDOS, version 1988,
or
PS/2-PC's, using MS-DOS NOT Y2000K, date set < y2000
still used as programming terminals in the industry.

( CDOS = Concurrent Dos,
PS/2-PC is a dos-terminal in a public room,
the previous PC did disappear some night )

We have plenty of problems to read the floppies,
because the quality of both
- floppy drives
- floppies
is going down.
Also new floppies sold in the shop are often a problem ..


If anyone knows hardware that can replaces a 1.44 Mb floppy drive in
the old PC's =< Pentium 2 PC's ?

I would like to put my SD-Card or USB-stick in the front-panel
on the PC,
and read or write it as if it is the second floppy drive B.

Is the next thing the only solution for my problem ?

= = = = i found only this project on the internet :

http://www.torlus.com/floppy/index.php?News

jan 2008
don't plan anymore to manufacture and sell this Floppy Emulator :-(.

the developer on his french website says that a limited
production is going on ..

http://jeanfrancoisdelnero.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/index.html
Derni�re minute:
Une fabrication d'une petite s�rie de la version USB de l'emulateur est en
cours de pr�paration.
Pour en profiter inscrivez-vous sur le forum.

18-03-2008:
Un reportage sur ce projet a �t� r�alis� et diffus� par la chaine NoLife ;-)



From: Jan Panteltje on
On a sunny day (Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:53:41 +0200) it happened "alfons de wolf"
<fons.de_wolfn5_sp5m(a)skynet.be> wrote in
<48062f13$0$2991$ba620e4c(a)news.skynet.be>:

>I was looking on the internet
>for the HARDWARE-replacement of old 3"1/2 floppy drives in
>PC's running CDOS, version 1988,
>or
>PS/2-PC's, using MS-DOS NOT Y2000K, date set < y2000
>still used as programming terminals in the industry.
>
>( CDOS = Concurrent Dos,
>PS/2-PC is a dos-terminal in a public room,
>the previous PC did disappear some night )
>
>We have plenty of problems to read the floppies,
>because the quality of both
>- floppy drives
>- floppies
>is going down.
>Also new floppies sold in the shop are often a problem ..


One advice:
Get a modern PC.
Copy all your floppies to harddisk.
Get a DVD burner.
Burn to DVD.

As things are, expect no more then 10 years for any given format to persist and be readable.
This means copy everything every x years or sooner.
Digital copies have no losses, but old floppies become unreadable, as you found out.
From: hrh1818 on
On Apr 16, 11:53 am, "alfons de wolf" <fons.de_wolfn5_s...(a)skynet.be>
wrote:
> I was looking on the internet
> for the HARDWARE-replacement of old 3"1/2 floppy drives in
> PC's running CDOS, version 1988,
> or
> PS/2-PC's, using MS-DOS NOT Y2000K, date set < y2000
> still used as programming terminals in the industry.
>
> ( CDOS = Concurrent Dos,
> PS/2-PC is a dos-terminal in a public room,
> the previous PC did disappear some night )
>
> We have plenty of problems to read the floppies,
> because the quality of both
> - floppy drives
> - floppies
> is going down.
> Also new floppies sold in the shop are often a problem ..
>
> If anyone knows hardware that can replaces a 1.44 Mb floppy drive in
> the old PC's =< Pentium 2 PC's ?
>
> I would like to put my SD-Card or USB-stick in the front-panel
> on the PC,
> and read or write it as if it is the second floppy drive B.
>
> Is the next thing the only solution for my problem ?
>
> = = = = i found only this project on the internet :
>
> http://www.torlus.com/floppy/index.php?News
>
> jan 2008
> don't plan anymore to manufacture and sell this Floppy Emulator :-(.
>
> the developer on his french website says that a limited
> production is going on ..
>
> http://jeanfrancoisdelnero.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/index.html
> Dernière minute:
> Une fabrication d'une petite série de la version USB de l'emulateur est en
> cours de préparation.
> Pour en profiter inscrivez-vous sur le forum.
>
> 18-03-2008:
> Un reportage sur ce projet a été réalisé et diffusé par la chaine NoLife ;-)

One possibility is a virtual drive. One, create a virtual drive in
memory. Two, make an image of your floppy disc contents on a flash
drive. Three copy the image from the flash drive to your virtual
drive. Four, access the virtual drive just like it was a floppy
drive.

For more information see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_drive
And especially the link to a free floppy drive emulator.

Howard
From: alfons de wolf on
"hrh1818" <hrhan(a)att.net> wrote in message
news:8ac1fbde-c967-438b-a5cc-fb5de1f57926(a)u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 16, 11:53 am, "alfons de wolf" <fons.de_wolfn5_s...(a)skynet.be>
wrote:
> I was looking on the internet
> for the HARDWARE-replacement of old 3"1/2 floppy drives in
> PC's running CDOS, version 1988,
> or
> PS/2-PC's, using MS-DOS NOT Y2000K, date set < y2000
> still used as programming terminals in the industry.
>
> ( CDOS = Concurrent Dos,
> PS/2-PC is a dos-terminal in a public room,
> the previous PC did disappear some night )
>
> We have plenty of problems to read the floppies,
> because the quality of both
> - floppy drives
> - floppies
> is going down.
> Also new floppies sold in the shop are often a problem ..
>
> If anyone knows hardware that can replaces a 1.44 Mb floppy drive in
> the old PC's =< Pentium 2 PC's ?
>
> I would like to put my SD-Card or USB-stick in the front-panel
> on the PC,
> and read or write it as if it is the second floppy drive B.
>
> Is the next thing the only solution for my problem ?
>
> = = = = i found only this project on the internet :
>
> http://www.torlus.com/floppy/index.php?News
>
> jan 2008
> don't plan anymore to manufacture and sell this Floppy Emulator :-(.
>
> the developer on his french website says that a limited
> production is going on ..
>
> http://jeanfrancoisdelnero.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/index.html
> Derni�re minute:
> Une fabrication d'une petite s�rie de la version USB de l'emulateur est en
> cours de pr�paration.
> Pour en profiter inscrivez-vous sur le forum.
>>
>> 18-03-2008:
>> Un reportage sur ce projet a �t� r�alis� et diffus� par la chaine NoLife
>> ;-)
>
> One possibility is a virtual drive. One, create a virtual drive in
> memory. Two, make an image of your floppy disc contents on a flash
> drive. Three copy the image from the flash drive to your virtual
> drive. Four, access the virtual drive just like it was a floppy
> drive.
>
> For more information see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_drive
> And especially the link to a free floppy drive emulator.
>
> Howard

thanks,

and wikipedia shows the link to
Semi-Virtual Diskette (SVD) - a vintage hardware floppy drive/image
emulator.

http://www.thesvd.com/SVD/

: almost what i need .. but still not sufficient ..

it doesn't mention the classic

"ibm-microsoft" PC

Fons


From: hrh1818 on
On Apr 16, 10:05 pm, "alfons de wolf" <fons.de_wolfn5_s...(a)skynet.be>
wrote:
> "hrh1818" <hr...(a)att.net> wrote in message
>
> news:8ac1fbde-c967-438b-a5cc-fb5de1f57926(a)u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 16, 11:53 am, "alfons de wolf" <fons.de_wolfn5_s...(a)skynet.be>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I was looking on the internet
> > for the HARDWARE-replacement of old 3"1/2 floppy drives in
> > PC's running CDOS, version 1988,
> > or
> > PS/2-PC's, using MS-DOS NOT Y2000K, date set < y2000
> > still used as programming terminals in the industry.
>
> > ( CDOS = Concurrent Dos,
> > PS/2-PC is a dos-terminal in a public room,
> > the previous PC did disappear some night )
>
> > We have plenty of problems to read the floppies,
> > because the quality of both
> > - floppy drives
> > - floppies
> > is going down.
> > Also new floppies sold in the shop are often a problem ..
>
> > If anyone knows hardware that can replaces a 1.44 Mb floppy drive in
> > the old PC's =< Pentium 2 PC's ?
>
> > I would like to put my SD-Card or USB-stick in the front-panel
> > on the PC,
> > and read or write it as if it is the second floppy drive B.
>
> > Is the next thing the only solution for my problem ?
>
> > = = = = i found only this project on the internet :
>
> >http://www.torlus.com/floppy/index.php?News
>
> > jan 2008
> > don't plan anymore to manufacture and sell this Floppy Emulator :-(.
>
> > the developer on his french website says that a limited
> > production is going on ..
>
> >http://jeanfrancoisdelnero.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/index.html
> > Dernière minute:
> > Une fabrication d'une petite série de la version USB de l'emulateur est en
> > cours de préparation.
> > Pour en profiter inscrivez-vous sur le forum.
>
> >> 18-03-2008:
> >> Un reportage sur ce projet a été réalisé et diffusé par la chaine NoLife
> >> ;-)
>
> > One possibility is a virtual drive. One, create a virtual drive in
> > memory. Two, make an image of your floppy disc contents on a flash
> > drive. Three copy the image from the flash drive to your virtual
> > drive. Four, access the virtual drive just like it was a floppy
> > drive.
>
> > For more information see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_drive
> > And especially the link to a free floppy drive emulator.
>
> > Howard
>
> thanks,
>
> and wikipedia shows the link to
> Semi-Virtual Diskette (SVD) - a vintage hardware floppy drive/image
> emulator.
>
> http://www.thesvd.com/SVD/
>
> : almost what i need .. but still not sufficient ..
>
> it doesn't mention the classic
>
> "ibm-microsoft" PC
>
> Fons

Out of curiosity what is the difference between the old ibm-microsoft
and recent 3 1/2 inch floppy disk drives?

Howard