From: alfons de wolf on 16 Apr 2008 12:53 I was looking on the internet for the HARDWARE-replacement of old 3"1/2 floppy drives in PC's running CDOS, version 1988, or PS/2-PC's, using MS-DOS NOT Y2000K, date set < y2000 still used as programming terminals in the industry. ( CDOS = Concurrent Dos, PS/2-PC is a dos-terminal in a public room, the previous PC did disappear some night ) We have plenty of problems to read the floppies, because the quality of both - floppy drives - floppies is going down. Also new floppies sold in the shop are often a problem .. If anyone knows hardware that can replaces a 1.44 Mb floppy drive in the old PC's =< Pentium 2 PC's ? I would like to put my SD-Card or USB-stick in the front-panel on the PC, and read or write it as if it is the second floppy drive B. Is the next thing the only solution for my problem ? = = = = i found only this project on the internet : http://www.torlus.com/floppy/index.php?News jan 2008 don't plan anymore to manufacture and sell this Floppy Emulator :-(. the developer on his french website says that a limited production is going on .. http://jeanfrancoisdelnero.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/index.html Derni�re minute: Une fabrication d'une petite s�rie de la version USB de l'emulateur est en cours de pr�paration. Pour en profiter inscrivez-vous sur le forum. 18-03-2008: Un reportage sur ce projet a �t� r�alis� et diffus� par la chaine NoLife ;-)
From: Jan Panteltje on 16 Apr 2008 13:33 On a sunny day (Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:53:41 +0200) it happened "alfons de wolf" <fons.de_wolfn5_sp5m(a)skynet.be> wrote in <48062f13$0$2991$ba620e4c(a)news.skynet.be>: >I was looking on the internet >for the HARDWARE-replacement of old 3"1/2 floppy drives in >PC's running CDOS, version 1988, >or >PS/2-PC's, using MS-DOS NOT Y2000K, date set < y2000 >still used as programming terminals in the industry. > >( CDOS = Concurrent Dos, >PS/2-PC is a dos-terminal in a public room, >the previous PC did disappear some night ) > >We have plenty of problems to read the floppies, >because the quality of both >- floppy drives >- floppies >is going down. >Also new floppies sold in the shop are often a problem .. One advice: Get a modern PC. Copy all your floppies to harddisk. Get a DVD burner. Burn to DVD. As things are, expect no more then 10 years for any given format to persist and be readable. This means copy everything every x years or sooner. Digital copies have no losses, but old floppies become unreadable, as you found out.
From: hrh1818 on 16 Apr 2008 15:30 On Apr 16, 11:53 am, "alfons de wolf" <fons.de_wolfn5_s...(a)skynet.be> wrote: > I was looking on the internet > for the HARDWARE-replacement of old 3"1/2 floppy drives in > PC's running CDOS, version 1988, > or > PS/2-PC's, using MS-DOS NOT Y2000K, date set < y2000 > still used as programming terminals in the industry. > > ( CDOS = Concurrent Dos, > PS/2-PC is a dos-terminal in a public room, > the previous PC did disappear some night ) > > We have plenty of problems to read the floppies, > because the quality of both > - floppy drives > - floppies > is going down. > Also new floppies sold in the shop are often a problem .. > > If anyone knows hardware that can replaces a 1.44 Mb floppy drive in > the old PC's =< Pentium 2 PC's ? > > I would like to put my SD-Card or USB-stick in the front-panel > on the PC, > and read or write it as if it is the second floppy drive B. > > Is the next thing the only solution for my problem ? > > = = = = i found only this project on the internet : > > http://www.torlus.com/floppy/index.php?News > > jan 2008 > don't plan anymore to manufacture and sell this Floppy Emulator :-(. > > the developer on his french website says that a limited > production is going on .. > > http://jeanfrancoisdelnero.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/index.html > Dernière minute: > Une fabrication d'une petite série de la version USB de l'emulateur est en > cours de préparation. > Pour en profiter inscrivez-vous sur le forum. > > 18-03-2008: > Un reportage sur ce projet a été réalisé et diffusé par la chaine NoLife ;-) One possibility is a virtual drive. One, create a virtual drive in memory. Two, make an image of your floppy disc contents on a flash drive. Three copy the image from the flash drive to your virtual drive. Four, access the virtual drive just like it was a floppy drive. For more information see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_drive And especially the link to a free floppy drive emulator. Howard
From: alfons de wolf on 16 Apr 2008 23:05 "hrh1818" <hrhan(a)att.net> wrote in message news:8ac1fbde-c967-438b-a5cc-fb5de1f57926(a)u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com... On Apr 16, 11:53 am, "alfons de wolf" <fons.de_wolfn5_s...(a)skynet.be> wrote: > I was looking on the internet > for the HARDWARE-replacement of old 3"1/2 floppy drives in > PC's running CDOS, version 1988, > or > PS/2-PC's, using MS-DOS NOT Y2000K, date set < y2000 > still used as programming terminals in the industry. > > ( CDOS = Concurrent Dos, > PS/2-PC is a dos-terminal in a public room, > the previous PC did disappear some night ) > > We have plenty of problems to read the floppies, > because the quality of both > - floppy drives > - floppies > is going down. > Also new floppies sold in the shop are often a problem .. > > If anyone knows hardware that can replaces a 1.44 Mb floppy drive in > the old PC's =< Pentium 2 PC's ? > > I would like to put my SD-Card or USB-stick in the front-panel > on the PC, > and read or write it as if it is the second floppy drive B. > > Is the next thing the only solution for my problem ? > > = = = = i found only this project on the internet : > > http://www.torlus.com/floppy/index.php?News > > jan 2008 > don't plan anymore to manufacture and sell this Floppy Emulator :-(. > > the developer on his french website says that a limited > production is going on .. > > http://jeanfrancoisdelnero.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/index.html > Derni�re minute: > Une fabrication d'une petite s�rie de la version USB de l'emulateur est en > cours de pr�paration. > Pour en profiter inscrivez-vous sur le forum. >> >> 18-03-2008: >> Un reportage sur ce projet a �t� r�alis� et diffus� par la chaine NoLife >> ;-) > > One possibility is a virtual drive. One, create a virtual drive in > memory. Two, make an image of your floppy disc contents on a flash > drive. Three copy the image from the flash drive to your virtual > drive. Four, access the virtual drive just like it was a floppy > drive. > > For more information see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_drive > And especially the link to a free floppy drive emulator. > > Howard thanks, and wikipedia shows the link to Semi-Virtual Diskette (SVD) - a vintage hardware floppy drive/image emulator. http://www.thesvd.com/SVD/ : almost what i need .. but still not sufficient .. it doesn't mention the classic "ibm-microsoft" PC Fons
From: hrh1818 on 17 Apr 2008 11:10 On Apr 16, 10:05 pm, "alfons de wolf" <fons.de_wolfn5_s...(a)skynet.be> wrote: > "hrh1818" <hr...(a)att.net> wrote in message > > news:8ac1fbde-c967-438b-a5cc-fb5de1f57926(a)u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > On Apr 16, 11:53 am, "alfons de wolf" <fons.de_wolfn5_s...(a)skynet.be> > wrote: > > > > > I was looking on the internet > > for the HARDWARE-replacement of old 3"1/2 floppy drives in > > PC's running CDOS, version 1988, > > or > > PS/2-PC's, using MS-DOS NOT Y2000K, date set < y2000 > > still used as programming terminals in the industry. > > > ( CDOS = Concurrent Dos, > > PS/2-PC is a dos-terminal in a public room, > > the previous PC did disappear some night ) > > > We have plenty of problems to read the floppies, > > because the quality of both > > - floppy drives > > - floppies > > is going down. > > Also new floppies sold in the shop are often a problem .. > > > If anyone knows hardware that can replaces a 1.44 Mb floppy drive in > > the old PC's =< Pentium 2 PC's ? > > > I would like to put my SD-Card or USB-stick in the front-panel > > on the PC, > > and read or write it as if it is the second floppy drive B. > > > Is the next thing the only solution for my problem ? > > > = = = = i found only this project on the internet : > > >http://www.torlus.com/floppy/index.php?News > > > jan 2008 > > don't plan anymore to manufacture and sell this Floppy Emulator :-(. > > > the developer on his french website says that a limited > > production is going on .. > > >http://jeanfrancoisdelnero.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/index.html > > Dernière minute: > > Une fabrication d'une petite série de la version USB de l'emulateur est en > > cours de préparation. > > Pour en profiter inscrivez-vous sur le forum. > > >> 18-03-2008: > >> Un reportage sur ce projet a été réalisé et diffusé par la chaine NoLife > >> ;-) > > > One possibility is a virtual drive. One, create a virtual drive in > > memory. Two, make an image of your floppy disc contents on a flash > > drive. Three copy the image from the flash drive to your virtual > > drive. Four, access the virtual drive just like it was a floppy > > drive. > > > For more information see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_drive > > And especially the link to a free floppy drive emulator. > > > Howard > > thanks, > > and wikipedia shows the link to > Semi-Virtual Diskette (SVD) - a vintage hardware floppy drive/image > emulator. > > http://www.thesvd.com/SVD/ > > : almost what i need .. but still not sufficient .. > > it doesn't mention the classic > > "ibm-microsoft" PC > > Fons Out of curiosity what is the difference between the old ibm-microsoft and recent 3 1/2 inch floppy disk drives? Howard
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