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From: TaliesinSoft on 18 Oct 2009 18:18
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:46:35 -0500, heron stone wrote
(in article <heronDO-0A821D.13463518102009(a)news-40.giganews.com>):

> ?is that so difficult

> ?why don't we have it

Thinking of the "Heron Stone" ppunctuation....

The hounds are on the trail?

The hounds are on the trail.

As I see it the difference in how these two sentences are read is in the
intonation of the last word, which is why the question mark is at the end,
not the beginning, of the sentence.

Is there a usenet discussion which addresses the "Heron Stone" punctuation?


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From: heron stone on 18 Oct 2009 18:27
In article <0001HW.C700FE670055E6A2B01029BF(a)News.Individual.NET>,
TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:46:35 -0500, heron stone wrote
> (in article <heronDO-0A821D.13463518102009(a)news-40.giganews.com>):
>
> > ?is that so difficult
>
> > ?why don't we have it
>
> Thinking of the "Heron Stone" ppunctuation....
>
> The hounds are on the trail?
>
> The hounds are on the trail.
>
> As I see it the difference in how these two sentences are read is in the
> intonation of the last word, which is why the question mark is at the end,
> not the beginning, of the sentence.
>
> Is there a usenet discussion which addresses the "Heron Stone" punctuation?

not that i know of
..intonation plays no part in written communication

?so why should we wait until the end of a written
utterance to determine if it is an assertion
or a question

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From: TaliesinSoft on 18 Oct 2009 18:41
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:27:06 -0500, heron stone wrote (in article
<heronDO-8174E2.15270618102009(a)news-40.giganews.com>):

[in response to my having stated in a preceding posting in this thread]

>> Thinking of the "Heron Stone" ppunctuation....
>>
>> The hounds are on the trail?
>>
>> The hounds are on the trail.
>>
>> As I see it the difference in how these two sentences are read is in the
>> intonation of the last word, which is why the question mark is at the
>> end, not the beginning, of the sentence.
>>
>> Is there a usenet discussion which addresses the "Heron Stone"
>> punctuation?
>
> not that i know of .intonation plays no part in written communication
>
> ?so why should we wait until the end of a written utterance to determine
> if it is an assertion or a question

To me intonation definitely plays a part in written communication in that,
even though we are not speaking, the changes in pronunciation do occur in our
minds.

I can honestly say that I have no recollection of being confused as to
whether a written sentence is or is not a question, the clues being the
opening words such as "Why" or "How" and the terminating punctuation, "?".

Written communication in some languages, Spanish being an example, do embrace
the question, and the same goes for an explanation, with punctuation at each
end of the sentence.

--
James Leo Ryan --- Austin, Texas --- taliesinsoft(a)me.com

From: Gerry on 18 Oct 2009 18:44
In article <heronDO-8174E2.15270618102009(a)news-40.giganews.com>,
heron stone <heronDO(a)gendo.net> wrote:

> In article <0001HW.C700FE670055E6A2B01029BF(a)News.Individual.NET>,
> TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:46:35 -0500, heron stone wrote
> > (in article <heronDO-0A821D.13463518102009(a)news-40.giganews.com>):
> >
> > > ?is that so difficult
> >
> > > ?why don't we have it
> >
> > Thinking of the "Heron Stone" ppunctuation....
> >
> > The hounds are on the trail?
> >
> > The hounds are on the trail.
> >
> > As I see it the difference in how these two sentences are read is in the
> > intonation of the last word, which is why the question mark is at the end,
> > not the beginning, of the sentence.
> >
> > Is there a usenet discussion which addresses the "Heron Stone" punctuation?
>
> not that i know of
> .intonation plays no part in written communication
>
> ?so why should we wait until the end of a written
> utterance to determine if it is an assertion
> or a question

Because that is where one would expect it to be. Writing questions in
the form of haiku doesn't help much either.
From: heron stone on 18 Oct 2009 19:02
In article <0001HW.C70103B30057246DB01029BF(a)News.Individual.NET>,
TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote:

> I can honestly say that I have no recollection of being confused as to
> whether a written sentence is or is not a question, the clues being the
> opening words such as "Why" or "How" and the terminating punctuation, "?".

..yes, in many (even most perhaps) situations,
there is no confusion as to the type of
utterance being read
..but i do recall times when a sentence appeared,
at first, to be an assertion and turned out
to be a question, necessitating my need to
reinterpret the beginning


>
> Written communication in some languages, Spanish being an example, do embrace
> the question, and the same goes for an explanation, with punctuation at each
> end of the sentence.

overkill

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