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From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 27 Apr 2010 18:03
Speaking of using web search engines, has anyone noticed this before?
There's a "Wonder Wheel" link on the left of my

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=2010+MacBook+display+problems

that does something that's clearly trying to be clever using lists and
a thesaurus, and failing by using poor grammar interpretation. The
interesting thing is that it's done in Flash. Not very Google!

Cheers - Jaimie
--
You're only young once, but you can remain immature indefinitely.
From: Mark Conrad on 27 Apr 2010 18:04

Forgot to mention, I presently own a 2-year old MacBook Pro,
which has given me no problems at all, other than heating up
when I really push it, as in compressing a 40 GB file.

That is to be expected, because all recent MacBook Pros have
the same problem, which is caused by packing all that circuitry
into a tiny case.

I minimize the overheating by manually speeding up the disk
to its maximum speed, 6,000 rpm, before I do any heat-causing
operation, with the fine donation-ware utility "smcFanControl".

I get very nervous when the temperature inside the case
exceeds 85 C (185 F) - try to keep temp' below 60 C (140 F)

Why cook the components, just shortens their life.

I am a firm believer in protecting the longevity of my Macs from
excessive heat, I have this 11-year old Mac Lombard that is still
going strong because I take good care of it.

Of course these older Macs do not have near the problems of the
newer Macs, because the old Macs do not generate anywhere near
the heat that modern Macs do.

Mark-
From: David Empson on 27 Apr 2010 21:35
Mark Conrad <aeiou(a)mostly.invalid> wrote:

> Forgot to mention, I presently own a 2-year old MacBook Pro,
> which has given me no problems at all, other than heating up
> when I really push it, as in compressing a 40 GB file.
>
> That is to be expected, because all recent MacBook Pros have
> the same problem, which is caused by packing all that circuitry
> into a tiny case.
>
> I minimize the overheating by manually speeding up the disk
> to its maximum speed, 6,000 rpm, before I do any heat-causing
> operation, with the fine donation-ware utility "smcFanControl".

LOL. I hope that was a typo.

smcFanControl controls the fan speed, not the disk rotation speed (which
is fixed).

:-)

If you have a two year old MacBook Pro, it is presumably an Early 2008
15" or 17" model, with an NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT? (Same applies to the
Mid/Late 2007 15" and 17" models.)

If so, you are wise to try to keep it cool. There is a known issue with
that graphics controller which can cause it to fail due to overheating.

Apple has a special warranty repair extension to fix this, or it is
covered by AppleCare.

http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2377

My almost three year old MacBook Pro has just suffered this exact
problem. It is now in a state where on startup it usually doesn't detect
the NVIDIA and instead activates the integrated Intel GMA X3100
controller, which is not connected to anything and therefore the display
doesn't work (either internal or external). I can still operate the
computer via external methods such as screen sharing or remote login,
but it isn't exactly useful as a laptop.

It is away getting looked at under AppleCare.

I had been considering buying a new laptop anyway, and this was enough
of a trigger, especially as a retailer had a 10% discount over the
weekend.

I now have the entry level 2.4 GHz 15" Mid 2010 model, bought three days
ago. One friend bought the same model at the same time, and another has
one on order (top end 15" with Core i7 and 7200 rpm 500 GB hard drive).

And no, it is not showing any signs of diagonal lines on the display.
Very nice computer, runs noticeably cooler than my previous MacBook Pro.

Unfortunately it appears that having Eudora running is sufficient to
trigger the activation of the NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M, so if I want
longer battery life I may need to switch e-mail clients, unless this is
a bug in the auto-switch logic which Apple can fix.

--
David Empson
dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: Pd on 28 Apr 2010 10:05
David Empson <dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz> wrote:

> Unfortunately it appears that having Eudora running is sufficient to
> trigger the activation of the NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M, so if I want
> longer battery life I may need to switch e-mail clients, unless this is
> a bug in the auto-switch logic which Apple can fix.

What are we going to do when Eudora finally breaks? I'll be so sad to
move to a different email client, Eudora has been home for 20 years or
so now.

Must have a look at MailForge - it's supposed to mimic Eudora exactly,
which is what I really want. There are so many little touches that I
find invaluable, like being able to change the Subject of any email,
being able to edit incoming emails, grouping by opt-click on any field..
If it does work just like Eudora, it will be well worth $20 I think.

Whereas I don't think Penelope is going to do it for me.

--
Pd
From: Peter Ceresole on 28 Apr 2010 10:51
Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote:

> What are we going to do when Eudora finally breaks?

I think there's a whole lot of us wondering about that. Still, so far it
seems amazingly resilient.
--
Peter
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