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From: gtr on 21 May 2010 13:16 Has anyone used this for, say, four people in a significant conference call? That is, about an hour or so? I'm pondering whether iChat can be used for a significant multi-user conference. �Ideally four users present, with one of them giving a five-minute diatribe, followed sequentially by the other users with a "wrap up" at the end in which all users have the opportunity to engage freely. Have you ever used iChat for anything like this? �Or another software package that does good job? �Finally, a matter of finance. I know that there are a few such software packages that come with a client-supplied website, a significant subscription fee and so forth. �For me, that's not a solution. That's one of the reasons I'm hoping that iChat can work in this way. Any thoughts gratefully appreciated.
From: Davoud on 21 May 2010 15:29 gtr wrote: > Has anyone used this for, say, four people in a significant conference > call? That is, about an hour or so? > > I'm pondering whether iChat can be used for a significant multi-user > conference. �Ideally four users present, with one of them giving a > five-minute diatribe, followed sequentially by the other users with a > "wrap up" at the end in which all users have the opportunity to engage > freely. > > Have you ever used iChat for anything like this? �Or another software > package that does good job? �Finally, a matter of finance. I know that > there are a few such software packages that come with a client-supplied > website, a significant subscription fee and so forth. �For me, that's > not a solution. That's one of the reasons I'm hoping that iChat can > work in this way. Save yourself some grief. I have no doubt that iChat works for someone, but for the people I have tried it with it is basically worthless. Poor video even over 100 MBit/sec connections, no video, you-name-it. The other night I used Skype to video chat with a friend in Bangkok, where much of the infrastructure has just taken a terrible beating. He said that his Internet connection has been poor. We had broadcast-TV video quality for the duration of the call, about 25 minutes. Free. We're both Maccies, but we gave up on iChat after the first two or three failures. Davoud -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
From: gtr on 21 May 2010 15:53 On 2010-05-21 12:42:48 -0700, Michael Vilain said: >> Save yourself some grief. I have no doubt that iChat works for someone, >> but for the people I have tried it with it is basically worthless. Poor >> video even over 100 MBit/sec connections, no video, you-name-it. Just to verify, have you tried it under 10.6? >> The other night I used Skype to video chat with a friend in Bangkok, >> where much of the infrastructure has just taken a terrible beating. He >> said that his Internet connection has been poor. We had broadcast-TV >> video quality for the duration of the call, about 25 minutes. Free. >> We're both Maccies, but we gave up on iChat after the first two or >> three failures. > > Haven't tried Skype except through a regular phone. Those calls always > sound very weird, like the person is on the other end of an echo chamber > and there's a lag. A friend got tired of Verizon and got Vontage. It > seems to work very well for her and the calls are fine on her Crapcast > connection. I knew I could get some valuable input here. Last night I tryed Skype (video and audio) with a friend in Rio. It was amazingly responsive with very little lag, no feedback loops and very little audio bleed from his (or my) speakers. I have not tried it with four users, but may give that a shot next. The people that I'm thinking of trying this with all have a Mac. I naturally thought it might save us configuration hassles.
From: Jolly Roger on 21 May 2010 17:16 In article <210520101529542074%star(a)sky.net>, Davoud <star(a)sky.net> wrote: > gtr wrote: > > > Has anyone used this for, say, four people in a significant conference > > call? That is, about an hour or so? > > > > I'm pondering whether iChat can be used for a significant multi-user > > conference. �Ideally four users present, with one of them giving a > > five-minute diatribe, followed sequentially by the other users with a > > "wrap up" at the end in which all users have the opportunity to engage > > freely. > > > > Have you ever used iChat for anything like this? �Or another software > > package that does good job? �Finally, a matter of finance. I know that > > there are a few such software packages that come with a client-supplied > > website, a significant subscription fee and so forth. �For me, that's > > not a solution. That's one of the reasons I'm hoping that iChat can > > work in this way. > > Save yourself some grief. I have no doubt that iChat works for someone, > but for the people I have tried it with it is basically worthless. Poor > video even over 100 MBit/sec connections, no video, you-name-it. Not my experience at all. I regularly video chat with several friends, all in different states, some in Canada, and not only is it stupidly easy to set up, the quality is excellent, and it's relatively poblem-free. A caveat is that all of these friends are on the AOL Instant Messenger (AIM) chat service. > The other night I used Skype to video chat with a friend in Bangkok, > where much of the infrastructure has just taken a terrible beating. He > said that his Internet connection has been poor. We had broadcast-TV > video quality for the duration of the call, about 25 minutes. Free. > We're both Maccies, but we gave up on iChat after the first two or > three failures. If Skype can't do a 4-way video chat, it's not going to meet the OP's requirements. So can it? -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: gtr on 22 May 2010 13:13 On 2010-05-21 14:16:51 -0700, Jolly Roger said: > I regularly video chat with several friends, > all in different states, some in Canada, and not only is it stupidly > easy to set up, the quality is excellent, and it's relatively > poblem-free. A caveat is that all of these friends are on the AOL > Instant Messenger (AIM) chat service. Is it possible--or advantageous--with any other chat service. I note bonjour is available, and though I know nothing of it, I know it's an Mac thing, so again thought it might direct itself to the immediate task "more better". >> The other night I used Skype to video chat with a friend in Bangkok, >> where much of the infrastructure has just taken a terrible beating. He >> said that his Internet connection has been poor. We had broadcast-TV >> video quality for the duration of the call, about 25 minutes. Free. >> We're both Maccies, but we gave up on iChat after the first two or >> three failures. > > If Skype can't do a 4-way video chat, it's not going to meet the OP's > requirements. So can it? I'd like to know for sure. I noticed in my recent Skype chat (that guy in Rio) that there was a drop-down or a button somewhere that read "Add another user" or "Call additional user" or some such. I was just wandering around, but it did give the impression of additional connections.
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