From: Doug Anderson on
Lewis <g.kreme(a)gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> writes:

> In message <piljdov042.fsf(a)ethel.the.log> Doug
> <ethelthelogremovethis(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Lewis <g.kreme(a)gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> writes:
>
> >> In message <180320102204095306%nospam(a)nospam.invalid> nospam
> >> <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >> > In article <slrnhq612n.u0.g.kreme(a)cerebus.local>, Lewis
> >> > <g.kreme(a)gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> >> >> >> Make sure that in "Universal Access" (er... was that renamed
> >> in 10.6?)
> >> >> >> "Zoom" is turned on. Show him how to zoom the screen by holding the
> >> >> >> control key while sliding his finger on the top of the magic mouse.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > which is effectively the same thing as changing the native resolution,
> >> >> > just a lot more work.
> >> >> No it's not. Not at all. Not even a little bit.
> >> > of course it is. either way, the pixels get interpolated.
> >> No, that's not at all accurate.
>
> > It _seems_ accurate.
>
> It seems accurate, but it isn't. When you do a ctrl+scroll what the
> system does is take a portion of the screen and zoom it up. It does not
> re-interpolate that portion of the screen at all. What you see is exactly
> what is there, only bigger.

I don't understand this. When I look at the screen at its native
resolution, every pixel is in use.

If I "zoom it up" to 1.5 times original size, I _haven't_ made the
pixels 1.5 times bigger - the pixels are physical, and I can't change
their size.

To make this clearer, imagine there are 4 pixels, b for black, w for
white at native resolution arranged in a square like this:

bw
wb

If I zoom it up by 1.5 times original size, that image is now 9
pixels. How do you assert they are lit in order to "exactly what is
there, only bigger?"


> You can see the difference if you have a flat panel that can do 'half'
> resolution (really, 1/4th res) where the hight and width are half the
> native rez. Set the machine to that and look at it. It will be a little
> fuzzy, but not to the extend if you zoom in on 1/4 of your full
> screen.

I don't understand this.

From: nospam on
In article <slrnhq7u6n.q58.g.kreme(a)cerebus.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme(a)gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> It seems accurate, but it isn't. When you do a ctrl+scroll what the
> system does is take a portion of the screen and zoom it up. It does not
> re-interpolate that portion of the screen at all. What you see is exactly
> what is there, only bigger.

how does it zoom it up, without interpolating it?

there is no longer a 1:1 mapping of the image data to the display
pixels. it *must* interpolate.

> You can see the difference if you have a flat panel that can do 'half'
> resolution (really, 1/4th res) where the hight and width are half the
> native rez. Set the machine to that and look at it. It will be a little
> fuzzy, but not to the extend if you zoom in on 1/4 of your full screen.

post screen shots.
From: Fred Moore on
In article <C7C97FEC.55295%nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid>,
Nick Naym <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

> In article fmoore-6BAF0E.12064019032010(a)mail.eternal-september.org, Fred
> Moore at fmoore(a)gcfn.org wrote on 3/19/10 12:06 PM:
>
> > In article <tom_stiller-83B47A.17322018032010(a)news.individual.net>,
> > Tom Stiller <tom_stiller(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <fmoore-102731.15090918032010(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> >> Fred Moore <fmoore(a)gcfn.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Richard, my wife tried progressives, and they made her terminally
> >>> nauseous.
> >>
> >> They killed her?
> >
> > Well, okay, Mr. Literal. Zheesh, must be an engineer! ;) Fortunately,
> > my wife is still alive and kicking. Unlike my experience, progressive
> > lenses gave my wife headaches and made her want to vomit. I was using
> > the word 'terminal', in the current colloquial form for 'very',
> > 'extremely', or 'to the nth degree', as in 'When they gave the boy a
> > large bowl of his favorite ice cream, he was terminally happy.' The
> > usage ariginated in the 60s IIRC, but then I do remember at least part
> > of the 60s so perhaps I wasn't really there.
>
> Fred, I'm just guessing, here...but I'm willing to bet that Tom was pulling
> your leg. ;)

Right, which is why I took care to put the winking smiley in my response
(and I'm an engineer myself). Since he made the effort to post the
comment, I felt I should respond. No offense meant to Tom. Besides, a
large bowl of my favorite ice cream is a wonderful thing to contemplate!
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