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From: Steve Fenwick on 9 Feb 2010 04:52
In article <9vm1n5lau2mi0lu6tboed7oc9bec8nq6m9(a)4ax.com>,
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:53:08 -0800, Steve Fenwick
> <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> >At the Apple Stores, they give you the option to have your receipt
> >emailed.
>
> Non-compliant with FACT laws. Here's a human readable summary:
> <http://www.klgates.com/files/Publication/dfc6105b-d751-4209-8fbc-3323770c8485
> /Presentation/PublicationAttachment/4627035f-6be9-4e74-b138-362004d87f12/Towle
> _merchant_receipts.pdf>
> Bottom line is a printed receipt is required and that the credit card
> and ID numbers must be obfuscated.

I don't see where it requires a printed-on-paper receipt. The article
does discuss what needs to be done with card numbers on receipts. It
also specifically discusses card numbers on electronic-only receipts:

> In essence, the claims are that confirmation pages, �thank you for
> your order� pages, and
> �order status� pages etc. are receipts that may not show the full
> credit or debit card number or expiration date.

> >With WiFi, it shouldn't be hard to have a printer hanging off a
> >wireless print server.
>
> Assumption, the mother of all screwups.

Works great with Mac OS X on Apple Macs and Apple WiFi gear.


> >Yes, the software will need to cooperate. One would hope that would be
> >part of any good POS system.
>
> Ummm... I've always assumed that printing was the responsibility of
> the operating system. It's been that way since Windoze 1.0. Are we
> now to go back to the bad old daze of MSDOS applications with built in
> printer drivers? Yech. If the iPad is to be something more than an
> oversized iPod Touch, then some OS/X features need to included.

Your comment was:

> If the iPad is anything like the iPod Touch, printing is handled by
> 3rd party applications, usually in some bizarre manner.

Given that context, one would expect the POS software (hopefully) not to
do something bizarre.

Steve

--
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"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to
skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, chip shot in the other, body thoroughly
used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"
From: SMS on 9 Feb 2010 10:03
On Feb 8, 3:47 am, Larry <no...(a)home.com> wrote:

> The new batteries were all much better than the one the phone came with,
> even though it's the same exact battery.  They're all really fresh.  The
> sale is closed, now,

"http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.23708"

A very good source for stuff like that. One thing I've noticed is the
batteries are much fresher than what I could buy in the U.S..

That store also has one of the best bicycle lights in the world at
about 1/5 the price of what a comparable light costs from bicycle
accessory companies.

"http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.25149"
From: Jeff Liebermann on 9 Feb 2010 13:14
On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:52:29 -0800, Steve Fenwick
<nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

>In article <9vm1n5lau2mi0lu6tboed7oc9bec8nq6m9(a)4ax.com>,
> Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:53:08 -0800, Steve Fenwick
>> <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> >At the Apple Stores, they give you the option to have your receipt
>> >emailed.
>>
>> Non-compliant with FACT laws. Here's a human readable summary:
>> <http://www.klgates.com/files/Publication/dfc6105b-d751-4209-8fbc-3323770c8485
>> /Presentation/PublicationAttachment/4627035f-6be9-4e74-b138-362004d87f12/Towle
>> _merchant_receipts.pdf>
>> Bottom line is a printed receipt is required and that the credit card
>> and ID numbers must be obfuscated.

>I don't see where it requires a printed-on-paper receipt. The article
>does discuss what needs to be done with card numbers on receipts. It
>also specifically discusses card numbers on electronic-only receipts:

Hmmm... You're correct. I had always assumed that a merchant was
required to give a receipt when asked by the customer. I'd also
assumed that printed receipts were required for tax purposes. However,
a Google search didn't find anything of the sort. Obviously online
vendors are not required to provide printed receipts. I'll check with
an accountant.

However, I did excavate one interesting item:
<http://www.consumeradvertisinglawblog.com/2009/12/facta-e-mail-receipt-not-electronically-printed.html>
Apparently the Feds do not consider an emailed receipt to be a
"printed" receipt, and are therefore not covered by various privacy
and identity theft protection laws. Very strange.

>> >With WiFi, it shouldn't be hard to have a printer hanging off a
>> >wireless print server.
>>
>> Assumption, the mother of all screwups.
>
>Works great with Mac OS X on Apple Macs and Apple WiFi gear.

Sure. Everything works great if you subscribe to an all Apple
solution. However, my customers (and I) tend to use a mix of
technologies and vendors, which are often not so cooperative. My
current mystery with why printing from my iPod Touch to two allegedly
identical printers only works with one is a fair example. I also have
some experience dealing with IPP (internet printing protocol), which I
can only describe and complex, messy, and difficult to troubleshoot.

>> >Yes, the software will need to cooperate. One would hope that would be
>> >part of any good POS system.
>>
>> Ummm... I've always assumed that printing was the responsibility of
>> the operating system. It's been that way since Windoze 1.0. Are we
>> now to go back to the bad old daze of MSDOS applications with built in
>> printer drivers? Yech. If the iPad is to be something more than an
>> oversized iPod Touch, then some OS/X features need to included.
>
>Your comment was:
>
>> If the iPad is anything like the iPod Touch, printing is handled by
>> 3rd party applications, usually in some bizarre manner.
>
>Given that context, one would expect the POS software (hopefully) not to
>do something bizarre.

Sure, but the POS software should not need to include an application
which enables printing. The POS software might include recommended
3rd party iPad or iPod Touch applications for printing, which they
have tested. It might also include sample setups for wireless
printing. However, in my never humble opinion, all that is really the
responsibility of the operating system, and not the applications
vendor. Besides, it would be rather difficult in an iPod Touch like
operating environment, which doesn't allow user application
multitasking or background processes. The printing application would
thus need to be a seperate program, to be run after the POS
application is closed. It will work, but is really clumsy. Now, if
Apple included a printing application with the iPad, it could become a
background process, which will be much better. However, I've seen no
evidence of such an application on the iPad or iPod Touch yet.


--
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From: Larry on 9 Feb 2010 17:53
SMS <scharf.steven(a)gmail.com> wrote in news:49a2c93d-0706-4057-a907-
c1c2418bf480(a)o3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:

> On Feb 8, 3:47�am, Larry <no...(a)home.com> wrote:
>
>> The new batteries were all much better than the one the phone came with,
>> even though it's the same exact battery. �They're all really fresh. �
> The
>> sale is closed, now,
>
> "http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.23708"
>
> A very good source for stuff like that. One thing I've noticed is the
> batteries are much fresher than what I could buy in the U.S..
>
> That store also has one of the best bicycle lights in the world at
> about 1/5 the price of what a comparable light costs from bicycle
> accessory companies.
>
> "http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.25149"
>

Thank you! Thanks for taking the time to inform us.

--
"iPad is to computing what Etch-A-Sketch is to art!"

Larry

From: John Navas on 10 Feb 2010 13:54
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:52:41 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com>
wrote in <2d3vm55p50pb5od8ntdokrikkf6oveg84n(a)4ax.com>:

>On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 19:08:20 -0800, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
><MikeJ(a)ChainReaction.com> wrote:
>
>>"Up to 10 hours of surfing the web on Wi-Fi, watching video, or listening to
>>music Up to 10 hours of surfing the web on Wi-Fi, watching video, or
>>listening to music" (from Apple's website).
>
>I've found that a new battery meets or exceeds Apple's published
>specifications.

I sure haven't -- I've found the iPhone numbers to be quite optimistic,
on the order 2x actual performance with a brand new battery.

>However, battery operating time deteriorates with
>Li-Ion batteries as the battery ages.

True, but not very rapidly -- life is on the order of 2-3 years before
half capacity is reached, an average degradation of only about 2% per
month.

>Battery life also deteriorates more rapidly if you maintain a Li-Ion
>battery at maximum charge, and bake it inside a laptop or heat
>generating device. No clue yet how warm the iPad will run. More:
><http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm>

That's not a terribly accurate source.

>It might also be of interest to know the battery life for the latest
>Windoze 7 touch screen laptops is claimed at 3 to 5 hours:
><http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9140385/Review_3_Windows_7_touch_screen_laptops>
>(4 pages)

Battery life varies widely between different machines and between
different types of use -- the real world range is much wider than that.

Case in point is my ThinkPad T61, which gets nearly double the battery
life when I carefully configure the power management for maximum battery
run time.

--
Best regards,
John <http:/navasgroup.com>

If the iPhone is really so impressive,
why do iFans keep making excuses for it?
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