From: Jeffrey Goldberg on
Wes Groleau wrote:

> I've tried [the iPhone compass] several times. ONE of those times, it showed a direction,
> but it waved back and forth at least 45 degrees for
> about ten seconds, then popped up the "interference" shtick again.

Sounds like it is defective. I've been prompted to do the figure eight
thing a couple of times, but most of the time the compass does work for
me. So unless you live in Greenland or wherever magnetic north has
drifted to this week, you might take the thing in to check.

> On the other hand, who needs it? If you can't read a map, you
> probably can't use a compass. And if you CAN read a map or aerial
> photo, you can compare your surroundings to the map and figure out which
> way is which.

I have found that I rarely use the compass (which I find more reliable
than the GPS which I would like to use). But I could see finding it
useful if you are out in the woods when it's overcast. And I'm sure
that there are plenty of uses that I haven't considered.

-j

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From: Ian Gregory on
On 2010-04-03, Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:

> On the other hand, who needs it? If you can't read a map, you
> probably can't use a compass. And if you CAN read a map or aerial
> photo, you can compare your surroundings to the map and figure out which
> way is which.

It is not always that easy! Once I was in a group of six people skiing
across the Hardangervidda icecap in a whiteout. About once an hour
someone would briefly turn on a GPS and work out our desired heading.
The person at the front would look at a compass and set off in that
direction but within less than a minute they could easily get 90 degrees
off course without realising it (the person behind would have to shout
to tell them they were actually going in a circle). There were no
visible landmarks whatsoever and in that situation you actually need a
compass board to hold the compass out in front of you so that can easily
see it at all times in order to maintain anything like a straight line.

Before the advent of GPS the essentials for wilderness navigation were
map *and* compass, with an altimeter (barometric) being a useful
addition in high mountains (provided you remember to reset it every time
you reach a point with a known altitude).

Ian

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From: Wes Groleau on
On 04-04-2010 14:05, Ian Gregory wrote:
> On 2010-04-03, Wes Groleau<Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:
>> On the other hand, who needs it? If you can't read a map, you
>> probably can't use a compass. And if you CAN read a map or aerial
>> photo, you can compare your surroundings to the map and figure out which
>> way is which.
>
> It is not always that easy! Once I was in a group of six people skiing
> across .... There were no visible landmarks whatsoever .....

And it was flat? In the extremely rare situation where neither map nor
sun can tell me direction, my strategy is just go downhill until I find
water, then go downstream till I find people. But if you can't find
downhill, .....

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From: Clogwog on
"Ezekiel" <Me(a)Not-there.com> schreef in bericht
news:hp397d$qut$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>
>
> "Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote in message
> news:v99tn.35069$Ht4.15725(a)newsfe20.iad...
>
>
> Oh look. It's sock puppet Joe. Someone who never existed on usenet until a
> couple of weeks ago suddenly appears out of nowhere.

Yup, same posting style as HPT!
>
> A real life example of what the definition of a "troll" is.
>
Yup, "Mocassin joe" / "High Plains Tumper" is a troll!

From: Tim Adams on
In article <hpc0o5$nfg$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:

> On 04-04-2010 14:05, Ian Gregory wrote:
> > On 2010-04-03, Wes Groleau<Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:
> >> On the other hand, who needs it? If you can't read a map, you
> >> probably can't use a compass. And if you CAN read a map or aerial
> >> photo, you can compare your surroundings to the map and figure out which
> >> way is which.
> >
> > It is not always that easy! Once I was in a group of six people skiing
> > across .... There were no visible landmarks whatsoever .....
>
> And it was flat? In the extremely rare situation where neither map nor
> sun can tell me direction, my strategy is just go downhill until I find
> water, then go downstream till I find people. But if you can't find
> downhill, .....

sounds like the blond that wanted to go water skiing but couldn't find a lake
with a slope. :-)

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