From: nospam on
In article <dxizd0mOwXzR-pn2-Pn5S1d5bdvxl(a)localhost>, John Varela
<newlamps(a)verizon.net> wrote:

> Nospam claims the problem is rare. There are hundreds of people
> complaining on the forums, and all of them have the same experience:
> sailing along with no problem, upgrade to iTunes 9, try to sync, and
> the iPod is screwed. What proportion of people with this problem
> have the savvy to go on the forum? For every one who reports, there
> are probably hundreds who don't. The total may be small compared to
> the number of iPods sold, but it's still a lot of damaged units.

apple sold 21 million ipods last *quarter*. if there are only
'hundreds' who have a problem, then yes, it's rare. very rare. even if
it's in the thousands, it's still rare.
From: nospam on
In article <dxizd0mOwXzR-pn2-rc6ZMxYDDgmr(a)localhost>, John Varela
<newlamps(a)verizon.net> wrote:

> > > It seems clear that iTunes 9 is at fault, and Apple is doing nothing
> > > about it.
> >
> > it's fixed in 9.0.3
>
> No it's not. 9.0.3 is the version that did it to me.

it is according to someone i know at apple in the ipod group. they're
definitely aware of the issue and they *are* doing something about it.
maybe they didn't fix it completely, or maybe what you experienced is a
different issue.
From: nospam on
In article <vilain-73389A.18420416032010(a)news.individual.net>, Michael
Vilain <vilain(a)NOspamcop.net> wrote:

> > or more correctly, immediately update to 9.0.3.
>
> It doesn't run on 10.4.11.

yes it does
From: John Varela on
The end of the story:

When I left off before, the iPod was unresponsive to commands and
could not be turned off. I made an appointment at the Genius bar to
see what Mr. Apple would say. Arriving early at the Apple Store, I
idly plugged my iPod into one of the floor iMacs. Since the battery
was now completely run down, I expected nothing to happen. Instead,
the iPod displayed the Apple logo and started charging. At the
Genius Bar, Ms Apple, named Andrea, plugged it into a laptop and let
it charge for a while. She fiddled with the controls, did a restore,
and it was working. I took it home, had no problem synching it to
iTunes,and now it's been working fine for several days.

All that happened was that the battery was discharged and then it
evidently fixed itself.

Maybe letting the battery run down accomplished a full hardware
reset that I couldn't reach any other way.

--
John Varela

From: John on
On Mar 16, 5:39 pm, "John Varela" <newla...(a)verizon.net> wrote:
> In the Apple forum at:
>
> http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=204
>
> is a thread titled "After iTunes 9 upgrade iPod Classic is corrupt
> without ability to restore".
>
> Hundreds of users report that an attempt to sync an iPod Classic
> with iTunes 9 results in a corrupted hard drive on the iPod, turning
> the iPod into a useless brick.
>
> This reached out and bit me yesterday. My wife's 80 GB iPod Classic
> is always in the car, so I hadn't synched it since last summer.
> Without going into the gory details--there are plenty of variants on
> the same story in the forum cited above--I now find that the iPod
> will not turn off, it is continuously playing music, pressing the
> Menu button only brings up the Do Not Disconnect display [1], and
> the iPod is not recognized in iTunes nor by the Finder. Nor by
> Windows 7, for that matter. Nor Linux.
>
> It seems clear that iTunes 9 is at fault, and Apple is doing nothing
> about it.
>
> I am outraged.
>
> I am also amazed that there has been nothing (that I have noticed)
> about this on the news groups or in the press.
>
> In any case, be warned: if you have an iPod Classic do NOT "upgrade"
> to iTunes 9.
>
> [1] If it says "Do Not Disconnect", doesn't that mean it's in hard
> drive mode? But it's playing music.
>
> --
> John Varela

I have an old iPod Gen 4 photo that had some quirky behavior, and when
the battery ran down, it would not start charging with the wall outlet
charger. It only charged and restored with the USB cable, and that had
to be either in a powered hub or plugged into one of the USB ports on
the computer.
I eventually had to replace both the battery and the logic board for
the battery to be able to hold a charge.