From: Stefan Behnel on
Alf P. Steinbach, 18.03.2010 09:53:
> <headers source="your article">
> Path:
> feeder.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!news.linkpendium.com!news.linkpendium.com!newsfeeds.ihug.co.nz!lust.ihug.co.nz!ihug.co.nz!not-for-mail
>
> From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo(a)geek-central.gen.new_zealand>
> Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
> Subject: Re: import antigravity
> Followup-To: comp.lang.python
> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:49:55 +1300
> Organization: Geek Central
> Lines: 7
> Message-ID: <hnslv3$jjk$2(a)lust.ihug.co.nz>
> References: <hnnclk$eud$1(a)lust.ihug.co.nz>
> <mailman.820.1268725930.23598.python-list(a)python.org>
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> Mime-Version: 1.0
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> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit
> X-Trace: lust.ihug.co.nz 1268898595 20084 118.92.14.26 (18 Mar 2010
> 07:49:55 GMT)
> X-Complaints-To: abuse(a)ihug.co.nz
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:49:55 +0000 (UTC)
> User-Agent: KNode/4.3.4
> Xref: eternal-september.org comp.lang.python:51777
> </headers>
>
>
> One must assume that you were not aware that you're posting your mail
> address in plaintext in every article?

Uhm - where?

Stefan

From: Alf P. Steinbach on
* Stefan Behnel:
> Alf P. Steinbach, 18.03.2010 09:53:
>> <headers source="your article">
>> Path:
>> feeder.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!news.linkpendium.com!news.linkpendium.com!newsfeeds.ihug.co.nz!lust.ihug.co.nz!ihug.co.nz!not-for-mail
>>
>>
>> From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo(a)geek-central.gen.new_zealand>
>> Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
>> Subject: Re: import antigravity
>> Followup-To: comp.lang.python
>> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:49:55 +1300
>> Organization: Geek Central
>> Lines: 7
>> Message-ID: <hnslv3$jjk$2(a)lust.ihug.co.nz>
>> References: <hnnclk$eud$1(a)lust.ihug.co.nz>
>> <mailman.820.1268725930.23598.python-list(a)python.org>
>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 118-92-14-26.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz
>> Mime-Version: 1.0
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit
>> X-Trace: lust.ihug.co.nz 1268898595 20084 118.92.14.26 (18 Mar 2010
>> 07:49:55 GMT)
>> X-Complaints-To: abuse(a)ihug.co.nz
>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:49:55 +0000 (UTC)
>> User-Agent: KNode/4.3.4
>> Xref: eternal-september.org comp.lang.python:51777
>> </headers>
>>
>>
>> One must assume that you were not aware that you're posting your mail
>> address in plaintext in every article?
>
> Uhm - where?

Well, at least the one that Chris Rebert quoted,
<mailto:ldo(a)geek-central.gen.new_zealand> (in the 'From:' header).

The point is, if he's upset about Chris quoting that, then he's probably unaware
that he's posting it in plaintext himself.


Cheers,

- Alf
From: Jussi Piitulainen on
Alf P. Steinbach writes:

> The point is, if he's upset about Chris quoting that, then he's
> probably unaware that he's posting it in plaintext himself.

The complaint was not about quoting but about using in public. Chris
sent his piece to three addresses. From his headers, redacted:

Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
To: "Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo(a)geek-central.gen.[REDACTED]>
Cc: python-list(a)python.org

Can we stop importing red herrings now?
From: Alf P. Steinbach on
* Jussi Piitulainen:
> Alf P. Steinbach writes:
>
>> The point is, if he's upset about Chris quoting that, then he's
>> probably unaware that he's posting it in plaintext himself.
>
> The complaint was not about quoting but about using in public. Chris
> sent his piece to three addresses. From his headers, redacted:
>
> Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
> To: "Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo(a)geek-central.gen.[REDACTED]>
> Cc: python-list(a)python.org
>
> Can we stop importing red herrings now?

Oh, I didn't see that -- it's Bad Practice so I didn't look for it.


Cheers,

- Alf
From: Steven D'Aprano on
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:17:43 +0100, Stefan Behnel wrote:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro, 18.03.2010 08:49:
>> In message<mailman.820.1268725930.23598.python-list(a)python.org>, Chris
>> Rebert wrote:
>>
>> I see that you published my unobfuscated e-mail address on USENET for
>> all to see. I obfuscated it for a reason, to keep the spammers away.
>> I'm assuming this was a momentary lapse of judgement, for which I
>> expect an apology. Otherwise, it becomes grounds for an abuse complaint
>> to your ISP.
>
> I hope you just had a bad day. Threatening others for figuring out your
> e-mail address is even worse than posting with an illegal e-mail
> address.

No, this is hardly the first time that Lawrence has made such a
wankerific threat:

http://www.mail-archive.com/python-list%40python.org/msg245012.html


I sympathise, because many years ago I lost an email address, made
unusable by spam, after using it unobfuscated in Usenet. But I think that
the spammers have mostly moved on these days. The pickings are much
richer for hijacking people's address books in Hotmail, Facebook or
Outlook, and the state of the art of anti-spam is better too. So I think
that Lawrence needs to HTFU and stop making empty threats over something
so trivial.


--
Steven
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