From: amdx on 22 Jun 2010 21:21 "Jim Wilkins" <kb1dal(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:d1e40c1b-12b1-488f-87e4-c0cd01b7b886(a)e5g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... On Jun 22, 2:58 pm, "amdx" <a...(a)knology.net> wrote: > "Jim Wilkins" <kb1...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:6f741741-4c48-4d18-b136-c7cf4e930bc5(a)b29g2000vbl.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 22, 1:16 pm, "amdx" <a...(a)knology.net> wrote: > > > ... > > I didn't pay attention at the time but the Yamaha schematic Jim linked > > to > > was > > not an inverter generator..... > > Mike > > Look at the top of page 21, "...the inverter control unit. > > Sorry, I'm not finding that, either on the page labeled 21 or on pdf page > 21. > Any help?? > Mike Search for the word "inverter". I found it twice, once there and once for connected devices. In the Foxit pdf reader Search is under Tools. jsw Ok, but only one of those counted. Mike PS. I'm no long a skeptic. :-)
From: Spehro Pefhany on 22 Jun 2010 21:56 On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:40:18 -0600, the renowned m II <c(a)in.the.hat> wrote: >Bruce in alaska wrote: > >> Hey Guys, Just a NOTE here: ALL Electrical Generators produce their >> power in AC, PERIOD. What you think of as DC Generators have Commutators >> that convert the AC from the windings, mechanically to DC, coming off >> the Commutator Brushes. > > >One of my teachers, years ago asked "What is a rotating mechanical >rectifier?". > >When we gave up, he answered "A commutator and brushes". That's funny, I thought it was a rotatary mechanical inverter. ;-) >I've never forgotten that. > >Here's an easy one: What is the difference between a generator and >alternator? > > > > > >mike Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff(a)interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
From: Tim Williams on 22 Jun 2010 22:44 "m II" <c(a)in.the.hat> wrote in message news:4c214fad(a)news.x-privat.org... >> *Cough*, homopolar generator? > > Let's not get too cute. A comb or rug can generate DC electricity too. > Tesla cured us of the DC habit. Ah ha! But those are also AC generators, simply using electrostatic rather than magnetic induction. You still need a commutator to make DC. ;-) Tim -- Deep Friar: a very philosophical monk. Website: http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms
From: Josepi on 22 Jun 2010 22:49 ooops Electrostatic charges are DC! When they discharge the electron "inertia" usually makes them overshoot the equalibrium and then over shoot back giving an AC with high frequencies and lots of RFI. ready for the RFI coming? "Tim Williams" <tmoranwms(a)charter.net> wrote in message news:3zeUn.3930$kn1.2785(a)newsfe16.iad... Ah ha! But those are also AC generators, simply using electrostatic rather than magnetic induction. You still need a commutator to make DC. ;-) Tim -- Deep Friar: a very philosophical monk. Website: http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms
From: Jim Wilkins on 22 Jun 2010 22:50
On Jun 22, 10:44 pm, "Tim Williams" <tmoran...(a)charter.net> wrote: > "m II" <c...(a)in.the.hat> wrote in messagenews:4c214fad(a)news.x-privat.org.... > >> *Cough*, homopolar generator? > ... > Tim A Wimshurst machine generates DC from a rotor without a commutator. jsw |