From: Hammy on
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 16:27:45 -0600, "Tim Williams"
<tmoranwms(a)charter.net> wrote:

>"Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message

>
>Yeah, I was recently looking for forward controllers... now, there's
>millions of flyback sorts of devices, and (usually with slope compensation)
>these can be built into half wave forward converters too. But TL494 and
>TL598 (totem pole output, cf. SG3524 and 3525) are the only push-pull
>forward controllers I've seen. I was shocked to see there is well and
>truely nothing new in this market, where the old, slow bipolar devices still
>rule.
>
>I would love to have one with beefy CMOS output (0.2 to 2A gate drive).
>CMOS is more than capable of implementing the internal circuitry. A speed
>upgrade besides and you've got a lovely IC.
>
>What is LT doing? I know they've made lots of single-chip and HF sorts of
>devices, but I never find anything from LT in searches like this.
>
>Tim

Have you seen the UCC25600 LLC Resonant mode controller.Can only sink
source 0.4A-0.8A . The absolute minimum guaranteed gate drive output
is 9V

http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/ucc25600.html

http://canada.newark.com/texas-instruments/ucc25600d/pulse-width-modulation-pwm-controller/dp/34P6588

Coilcraft has the gate drive transformer. I have a couple they are
tiny.

http://www.coilcraft.com/ha3858.cfm
From: John Larkin on
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 16:27:45 -0600, "Tim Williams"
<tmoranwms(a)charter.net> wrote:

>"Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>news:7srk6kFk53U1(a)mid.individual.net...


I'm not seeing Joerg's posts lately. I wonder why.

John


From: Joerg on
John Larkin wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 16:27:45 -0600, "Tim Williams"
> <tmoranwms(a)charter.net> wrote:
>
>> "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:7srk6kFk53U1(a)mid.individual.net...
>
>
> I'm not seeing Joerg's posts lately. I wonder why.
>

Hmm, I've use the spambot evade address the provider suggested but put a
fully legit (a.k.a. working) reply-to in the header. Shouldn't be
filtered away by any ISP. Or is it?

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From: John Larkin on
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 12:02:27 -0800 (PST), "miso(a)sushi.com"
<miso(a)sushi.com> wrote:


>>
>> >> Here's my inverter, sort of similar.
>>
>> >>ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/Inverter.jpg
>>
>> >> The thevenin impedance seen by the emitter determines loop gain. I
>> >> needed the ESR of the tantalum in the output to get good loop
>> >> stability; startup dV/dT is low enough that a tantalum appears safe
>> >> here.
>>
>> >> Load regulation is surprisingly good, about a tenth of a volt from 80
>> >> to 500 mA.
>>
>> >> John
>>
>> >I see a start up problem here. Look at the UVL of the LM5112. Won't
>> >this circuit whack the inductor while starting up?
>>
>> It's designed to start up at about 70% duty cycle. When the output
>> gets close to -12, the transistor turns on and backs off the duty
>> cycle to whatever it needs, which should be a bit over 50%.
>>
>> John
>
>I'm talking about the first pulse. The P-fet will be on because of the
>UVL being designed with a N-fet in mind. You should be able to see
>this on a storage scope.

Good point, except that it seems to work fine, even from a
current-limited bench supply. The UVLO is typically 3 volts, and that
klunky old NDT2955 has a 2.6 volt threshold, so it's barely on before
the oscillator starts.

But "storage scope"? Is there any other kind?

>I see a lot of people rolling their own converters and have read the
>justifications, but seriously, controller chips have (or should have
>if done well) every contingency in mind. The first pulse, the initial
>ramp up (soft start), etc. Linear Tech, Maxim, etc parts have been
>tied to the whipping post and flogged without mercy. If you sell
>millions of a component, even problems with 1% of them is a total
>disaster.

There aren't many inverting switchers around. The trick of having a
regular buck wind its own "ground" rail negative is OK, but usually
gets into trouble at higher output voltages. This circuit soft-starts
because the +5 reference comes up fairly slowly, by design. That
protects the tantalum on the output.

And designing circuits is fun.

But we've had a lot of problems with LDOs and switchers, way more than
1% of the various parts we've used.

National did this to us, LM3102:

ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/SwitcherRise.JPG

which cost a whole board spin.

John


From: Tim Williams on
"Hammy" <spam(a)spam.com> wrote in message
news:kpbhm5tdt8aeu5dp1cofgu395583h2r0ju(a)4ax.com...
> Have you seen the UCC25600 LLC Resonant mode controller.Can only sink
> source 0.4A-0.8A . The absolute minimum guaranteed gate drive output
> is 9V
>
> http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/ucc25600.html

Ooh, I should revise my induction heater design with one of those. That's
basically what I'm doing, except the transformer secondary is a hunk of
metal. ;-)

Tim

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