From: David W. Hodgins on
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:30:51 -0500, Robert Heller <heller(a)deepsoft.com> wrote:

> At Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:29:16 -0800 Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet(a)wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:
>> On my Slackware 13 box:
>>
>> $ /sbin/fdisk -v
>> fdisk (util-linux-ng 2.14.2)
^^
> I wonder what that -ng is all about? Maybe Slackware is using a forked
> version of util-linux?

On my Mandriva 2010.0 system, I get ...
$ /sbin/fdisk -v
fdisk (util-linux-ng 2.16.1)

The info in the rpm package indicates it's from
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/util-linux-ng

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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From: Stefan Patric on
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:01:32 -0800, Bill Waddington wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 03:40:38 GMT, Stefan Patric <not(a)this.address.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:23:19 -0800, yawnmoth wrote:
>>
>>> According to "sudo fdisk -1", /dev/sdc is described thusly:
>>>
>>> Disk /dev/sdc: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes 255 heads, 63
>>> sectors/track, 14593 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 =
>>> 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0xf0000000
>>>
>>> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
>>> /dev/sdc1 * 14267 14594 2620416 c W95 FAT32
>>> (LBA) /dev/sdc2 11 1316 10485760 7
>>> HPFS/NTFS /dev/sdc3 * 1316 14267 104031232 7
>>> HPFS/NTFS /dev/sdc4 14267 14594 2621440 f W95
>>> Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sdc5 14267 14594 2620416 0
>>> Empty
>>>
>>> Partition table entries are not in disk order
>
> [snip]
>
>> 3. sdc1 & sdc3 are both set as boot partitions. On any physical hard
>>drive, regardless of how many partitions it has, there should only be
>>one partition designated with the "boot" flag.
>
> Minor nit: IIRC some boot managers - System Commander for instance -
> use the active flag to mark partitions as bootable. Bootable in that
> case means bootable by SC, and allowed to appear in its boot menu. It
> will flag multiple partitions as bootable if directed to by the user and
> it finds what it considers to be a valid boot signature in the
> partition.

Never used System Commander or any other "Windows" boot manager for that
matter to multiboot different Windows versions. Linux and lilo or grub,
the easiest way, but still not always a simple procedure. Windows can be
so quirky, I'm sometimes amazed it works at all.


Stef
From: Stefan Patric on
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:51:58 -0800, yawnmoth wrote:

> [snip]
> I tried to delete all the partitions with GParted but after GParted
> spent a while reloading, I wasn't sure if anything had actually
> happened. I went into Windows, saw that they had now been deleted and
> went ahead and formatted it while there.

Did you create a new partition on the hard drive in Windows before
formatting it, or did you format it unpartitioned. What does fdisk -lu
show? What does Windows show?


Stef
From: Jerry Peters on
Robert Heller <heller(a)deepsoft.com> wrote:
> At Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:29:16 -0800 Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet(a)wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 2010-02-18, Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8(a)verizon.net> wrote:
>> > Keith Keller wrote:
>> >> On 2010-02-18, pk <pk(a)pk.invalid> wrote:
>> >>> yawnmoth wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> According to GParted, however, it only has one partition - an
>> >>>> unallocated one with an unallocated filesystem. My question is...
>> >>>> why the difference?
>> >>> You might find this note enlightening, taken from the fdisk man page:
>> >>>
>> >>> "fdisk is a buggy program that does fuzzy things - usually it happens to
>> >>> produce reasonable results. Its single advantage is that it has some support
>> >>> for BSD disk labels and other non-DOS partition tables. Avoid it if you
>> >>> can."
>> >>
>> >> I was going to quote that from my man page, but then noted that it does
>> >> not appear in man fdisk on my CentOS systems, only on my Slackware
>> >> system. It's possible the OP has the CentOS version of the fdisk man
>> >> page. (It's certainly possible the OP did not read the man page.)
>> >
>> > I have never had trouble with fdisk on my systems, but my biggest hard
>> > drives are only 73 Gigabytes.
>> >
>> > On my Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 system, the manual page for fdisk has
>> > this for its BUGS section.
>> >
>> > BUGS
>> > There are several *fdisk programs around. Each has its problems and
>> > strengths. Try them in the order parted, fdisk, sfdisk.
>>
>> It does have that, but it doesn't have the "fuzzy things" part described
>> above.
>>
>> To answer Robert's question in another post, I have Slackware 13, but
>> IIRC the fuzzy things part has been in the man page for Slackware 13 for
>> many releases.
>>
>> On my Slackware 13 box:
>>
>> $ /sbin/fdisk -v
>> fdisk (util-linux-ng 2.14.2)
> ^^
>
> I wonder what that -ng is all about? Maybe Slackware is using a forked
> version of util-linux?

Slackware 12.1:
~$ fdisk -v
fdisk (util-linux-ng 2.13.1)

util-linux-ng releases get announced on LKML, so if it's a fork it's a
pretty official one.

Jerry
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