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From: Archimedes Plutonium on 24 Jun 2010 14:53 Archimedes Plutonium wrote: > > Wikipedia provides an excellent picture of a pseudosphere: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudosphere > > And one can immediately see the two poles cutaway. And if that > pseudosphere > were tucked inside the sphere the poles of the sphere would be two > points > but the poles of the pseudosphere would be two hollow cylinders or a > circle. > > From the Wikipedia picture we can almost sense how large of a > circumference > those polar circles of the pseudosphere are. Now 1/8 of the > circumference of > Earth sphere is 5,000 km and picture a Earth pseudosphere stuffed > inside of > Earth. The question would be, how much of a distance are the two > circles of the > pseudosphere poles? Would they each be about 2,500 km for a total of > 5,000 km? > > From the Wikipedia picture it looks as though the circumference of the > total polar > circles is larger than 5,000 km. > > One can always compute how large the circumference of these > pseudosphere > poles are, but I rather trust hands on, eyesight of direct models and > to measure > the length. > > In the news recently was the world soccer games in South Africa with > their noisy > bugle toys and some are made of plastics. So I am ordering two of > those bugle > horns and then fold a sheet of paper to simulate an enclosing sphere > and find out > how much of a circumference for the two pseudosphere poles. > > Now if it arises that these pseudosphere poles are 5,000 km or 1/8 of > Earth sphere, > then I am rather bewildered with this outcome. Bewildered because I > can logically > understand how a log spiral could be a measure of time versus the > meridian-strips > as length for the speed of light derivation. But how can a so called > "defect" of the > pseudosphere cutaway be the time element? The only logical sense I > could make of > that circumstance, is that time is a imaginary feature of physics. It > is measured by > "what is not present", namely, the rest of the poles of the > pseudosphere that goes to > infinity. This is a rather surprizing result, provided of course it is > 1/8 the Earth sphere > circumference. > Playing around with some of the algebra of the setup. It works if I use only one pseudosphere-pole and where 1/2 circumference of pseudosphere pole equals 1/8 circumference of sphere. So this relationship is starting to materialize as true: Earth Sphere = 40,000 km circumference Earth Sphere 1/8 circumference = 5,000 km Earth Pseudosphere Pole = 10,000 km circumference and both pseudosphere poles would be 20,000 km If it were 1/2 of a single pseudosphere pole circumference then I would have the 5,000 km but that seems awfully ad hoc. But there maybe some mathematical relief in my favor. If we apply a generality, not just restricted to the sphere but to all ellipse containing the pseudosphere of a given diameter, then I think this relationship holds: circumference of both pseudosphere poles when added together, the sum equals 1/8 of the circumference of the diameter of the sphere. P.S. I did note that in the tractrix curve that the defect from the tractrix to the circle of same radius is a linear defect of 8 to 1. What I mean is that you go 8 units of the Tractrix and you have 1 unit missing to the circle. The circle is finite and closed, yet the tractrix is infinite and open. Starting at 0 or the origin or center of circle, that you go 8 units of the circle, 4 on Y-axis and 4 on -Y, and you have a defect of 1 unit of the tractrix. So if I can better define this defect, maybe the answer to 1/8 circumference. Archimedes Plutonium http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium/ whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |