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From: JimW on 7 Apr 2010 15:15 What is > th common thinking about these cameras? What other camera's should I > be thinking about? > > Shannon Pentax x90
From: newshound on 7 Apr 2010 15:16 "Shannon Tucker" <shannon.m.tucker(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:20171aa5-7585-41b3-a6c0-94fcf41d9503(a)z3g2000yqz.googlegroups.com... > On Apr 6, 10:43 pm, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote: >> On 2010-04-06 22:31:54 -0700, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> >> said: >> >> >> >> >> >> > On 2010-04-06 22:10:46 -0700, Shannon Tucker said: >> >> >> On Apr 6, 8:18 pm, Rich <rander3...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Apr 6, 7:16 pm, Shannon Tucker <shannon.m.tuc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> Panasonic G1 with a 20mm pancake lens. Panasonic GF1 with the >> >>> pancake >> >>> lens. Panasonic LX3 for the ultimate in portability, but none of the >> >>> P&S's will be as good for action due to their inability to support >> >>> high ISO ranges. >> >> >> G11 goes to 3200. How much higher does it need to go? >> >> > I have a G11. >> > 3200 on the G11 is marginal and noisy and can look like a smeared oil >> > painting. If you need to get an image in poor light it will do it for >> > you. However for acceptable quality ISO 800 will do better. You are >> > still going to need reasonable light and your best quality shots will >> > be at ISO 80, 100 & 200, with a push to 400. Unless you absolutely have >> > to, I would not push it beyond ISO 800, with ISO 1600 on the outer >> > limit for a picture you might want to keep. >> > Having said all that, the G11 will produce quality images, gives you >> > RAW files, and a good control layout. >> > For what you say you want to use it for, the G11 will do the job quite >> > well. It is well built and gives you a lot for the money. >> >> BTW: high ISO relates to performance in specific light conditions at a >> given aperture and shutter speed. So in good light at ISO 200-400, with >> a shutter speed of 1/320 to 1/500, with an appropriate aperture, a G11 >> will deal with "action" well enough. >> ...but according to your OP, you don't want it for action shooting. >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Savageduck > > Thank you so much for your response. I really appreciate them > immensely. > > > Some of what I have wanted to do was to take pictures for a local > dance? I have been asked to shoot people who ask for pics and to > shoot people on the dance floor. The dance lighting is chaotic and > not good, but the company that has asked me to take the pictures > understand this and pics that are sharp and clear are a plus but the > idea is to show the action. The house parties and family parties and > get togethers the lighting is better and the action isn't a problem. > My D70 does ok at the dances, but the parties, it intimidates my > subjects too much. I sometimes do similar things, and have a G10 and an Ixus 850 IS. As others have said the G series is noisy at 3200. I find myself using the Ixus as much as the G as it is more inconspicuous as well as more pocketable, and to be honest it can be tough to tell the results apart for "real" shots. Obviously, the G does give you raw, if you are into that. Both have nice big screens for checking results.
From: Peter Huebner on 8 Apr 2010 03:01 In article <0824de8e-dfe0-49d6-a5f5-7eede880a115 @x12g2000yqx.googlegroups.com>, shannon.m.tucker(a)gmail.com says... > The frustration I have with > most P&S's is that the shutter lags are measured in days rather than > microseconds. > > > That's just it, with my p&sses (one older Oly, one new Canon) I sometimes have shutter-lag between 1 and 2 seconds in mediocre light conditions. Trying to capture my cat having a mud-wrestling match with an eel with that lag .... waste of time I found out. The couple you're trying to capture at the dance may well have danced out of the frame before your p&s has decided that it's ready. Anyway, you seem to have a slr already, so - no need to try and sell coals to Newcastle. :-) By all accounts the G11 is a very nice camera indeed. -P.
From: bugbear on 8 Apr 2010 04:28 Shannon Tucker wrote: > On Apr 7, 1:37 am, Peter Huebner <no....(a)this.address> wrote: >> In article <5e6b0577-8afd-4914-91b6-7c4ed68374a9 >> @v20g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>, shannon.m.tuc...(a)gmail.com says... >> >> >> >>> I primarily like to shoot candid and informal portraits and then I do >>> a lot of hiking and fishing. I'm looking for a camera that isn't as >>> heavy or as big as a DSLR . >> Big - yes. Heavy - not. My 450d with the 'kit quality' 55-250mm lens >> feels lighter than the powershot sx20is, although it's a bit bulkier. >> It's also so much faster in operation that I do much prefer it for >> candid portraits & street photography. >> >> The higher quality lenses for the dslr are indeed much heavier. >> >> -P. > > My problem with my D70 is that when trying to take candids in the > context of barbecues, parties and family life, is that the camera > intimidates people and gets in the way of what I want to capture? If > people become aware of a point&shoot, it doesn't change their behavior > as much and pics are more natural, IMHO. The frustration I have with > most P&S's is that the shutter lags are measured in days rather than > microseconds. I find using a camera with a flip out display, (mine's a Canon A630) and holding the camera in an unusual position e.g. waist level avoids the classic "I'm using a camera" pose that people react (sometimes adversely) to. Longer lenses are also good - 100mm (in 35mm terms) allows you to be far enough from the subject to reduce their awareness of you. BugBear
From: Art Warner on 8 Apr 2010 04:59
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 19:01:24 +1200, Peter Huebner <no.one(a)this.address> wrote: >In article <0824de8e-dfe0-49d6-a5f5-7eede880a115 >@x12g2000yqx.googlegroups.com>, shannon.m.tucker(a)gmail.com says... >> The frustration I have with >> most P&S's is that the shutter lags are measured in days rather than >> microseconds. >> >> >> > >That's just it, with my p&sses (one older Oly, one new Canon) I >sometimes have shutter-lag between 1 and 2 seconds in mediocre light >conditions. Trying to capture my cat having a mud-wrestling match with >an eel with that lag .... waste of time I found out. The couple you're >trying to capture at the dance may well have danced out of the frame >before your p&s has decided that it's ready. Thanks for showing the whole world that you are so ignorant and inept as to not know how to use any camera properly. Even a beginner with a P&S camera could see how lame you are at any kind of photography by your posting. Next time, at least RTFM. > >Anyway, you seem to have a slr already, so - no need to try and sell >coals to Newcastle. :-) By all accounts the G11 is a very nice camera >indeed. > >-P. |