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From: JF Mezei on 4 May 2010 04:16
I know wireshark is installed on my machine because I can run it !

But the port command doesn't see *any* installed software on my mac.


(and god knows Wireshark has tons of prerequisites). So I have to instll
it from scratch all over again.


Is it possible that upgrading from 10.5 to 10.6 resulted in the macports
data base being zapped ? Or is this some environment variable that just
isn't set and the port command doesn't see anything ?

(I apologize in advance for asking a technical question in this
newsgroup :-)
From: JF Mezei on 4 May 2010 05:03
Lewis wrote:

> If you simply upgraded 10.5 to 10.6 then it should not have messed anything up at all.

Ok, so it must have been something I did. If I had installed macports,
it was because I needed it to install something, so macports should have
reported something installed !

(I know I had used it to install stuff like imagemagick for instance).

Right now, it is busy installing all of the world's software, including
openssl, python and a gazillion other stuff that come pre-installed on
the mac.
From: Jolly Roger on 4 May 2010 09:21
In article <4bdfe2f7$0$18923$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>,
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote:

> Lewis wrote:
>
> > If you simply upgraded 10.5 to 10.6 then it should not have messed anything
> > up at all.
>
> Ok, so it must have been something I did. If I had installed macports,
> it was because I needed it to install something, so macports should have
> reported something installed !
>
> (I know I had used it to install stuff like imagemagick for instance).
>
> Right now, it is busy installing all of the world's software, including
> openssl, python and a gazillion other stuff that come pre-installed on
> the mac.

That's just silly. What a waste of space and time. This is one of the
many reasons I avoid package managers like macports and instead compile
what I need, and only what I need, myself.

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From: Ian Gregory on 4 May 2010 12:26
On 2010-05-04, Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
> In article <4bdfe2f7$0$18923$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>,
> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote:
>>
>> (I know I had used it to install stuff like imagemagick for instance).
>>
>> Right now, it is busy installing all of the world's software, including
>> openssl, python and a gazillion other stuff that come pre-installed on
>> the mac.
>
> That's just silly. What a waste of space and time. This is one of the
> many reasons I avoid package managers like macports and instead compile
> what I need, and only what I need, myself.

I install only what I need using MacPorts and it is simpler than
downloading/configuring/building/installing from source. Yes it does
install its own version of dependencies which may come pre-installed on
the Mac but there are very good reasons for that.

Sure if you only want a single program and it has no dependencies or can
be linked to the Mac's pre-installed libraries there is an argument for
not using MacPorts (and clearly if what you want is not available
through MacPorts you have no choice). If you want more than half a dozen
programs or programs with a lot of dependencies that don't come
pre-installed then MacPorts saves a lot of time.

In particular, I can just type "sudo port upgrade installed" to upgrade
everything to the latest build (which I tend to do every time I run
Software Update). I have installed a fair few packages using MacPorts
and automatically installed dependencies bring the total to about 50
packages in /opt/local, consuming about 340 MB - less than 0.1% of my
disk.

I am not afraid of building stuff myself (I spent years doing it on
Solaris) but why do it the hard way when MacPorts automates the whole
thing and greatly simplifies management?

Ian

--
Ian Gregory
http://www.zenatode.org.uk/
From: Warren Oates on 4 May 2010 13:40
In article <slrnhu0ili.1iv.ianji33(a)zenatode.org.uk>,
Ian Gregory <ianji33(a)googlemail.com> wrote:

> I am not afraid of building stuff myself (I spent years doing it on
> Solaris) but why do it the hard way when MacPorts automates the whole
> thing and greatly simplifies management?

Depends what it is. If you want ffmpeg, say, with some custom libraries,
or your very own php, you have to build your own.
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