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From: Ron Johnson on 3 May 2010 22:10 On 05/03/2010 08:04 PM, Sam Leon wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 05/02/2010 03:24 PM, Alexander Samad wrote: >> [snip] >>> >>> My system used to become close to unusable on the 1st sunday of the >>> month when >>> mdadm did it resync, >> >> That sounds... wrong, on a jillion levels. >> > > I would rather the array fail on a monthly resync than have it fail on a > resync after replacing a drive and loose everything. > Arrays shouldn't fall out of sync, so a "monthly resync" *is* wrong on a jillion levels. Fortunately, as Martin Krafft pointed out, it's really a monthly self-test, and -- to a Large Systems DBA -- that's OK. -- Dissent is patriotic, remember? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4BDF7FD1.80900(a)cox.net
From: Hugo Vanwoerkom on 4 May 2010 12:10 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/03/2010 03:45 AM, martin f krafft wrote: >> also sprach Ron Johnson<ron.l.johnson(a)cox.net> [2010.05.03.1039 +0200]: >>> Is that Q21? >>> >>> http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-mdadm/mdadm.git;a=blob_plain;f=debian/FAQ;hb=HEAD >>> >> >> Yes. >> >>>> 2. You were asked upon mdadm installation whether you wanted it, and >>>> you chose to accept yes. dpkg-reconfigure mdadm if you don't >>>> believe in this feature. >>> >>> Well, not me, since I don't have a soft array... >> >> Then you probably have much more annoying problems, or will have. ;) >> > > I regularly backup to an external lvm2 LV. > I forget your specifics, but you do RAID *and* backup regularly to an external lvm2? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hrpgqm$1an$1(a)dough.gmane.org
From: Hugo Vanwoerkom on 4 May 2010 14:30 martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601(a)care2.com> [2010.05.04.1808 +0200]: >> I forget your specifics, but you do RAID *and* backup regularly to an >> external lvm2? > > RAID is not a backup solution, it's an availability measure. > But as data availability goes up by using RAID doesn't the need for backing up that same data go down? Or is this just semantics? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hrporg$3ur$1(a)dough.gmane.org
From: Eduardo M KALINOWSKI on 4 May 2010 14:40 On Ter, 04 Mai 2010, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > martin f krafft wrote: >> RAID is not a backup solution, it's an availability measure. >> > > But as data availability goes up by using RAID doesn't the need for > backing up that same data go down? Or is this just semantics? RAID does not prevent against you accidentaly deleting a file you did not want deleted. And the deletion will be immediately reflected to all disks in the array. -- Two is not equal to three, even for large values of two. Eduardo M KALINOWSKI eduardo(a)kalinowski.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100504153038.43696zudmge1064g(a)mail.kalinowski.com.br
From: Ron Johnson on 4 May 2010 16:00 On 05/04/2010 11:08 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: [snip] > > I forget your specifics, but you do RAID *and* backup regularly to an > external lvm2? > No, no RAID for me *at home*. But at work I manage databases on all sorts of (to use a quaint old phrase) super-minicomputers, and if they ever needed to "resynchronize" monthly, we'd have tossed them out immediately, since for the money we spend on them, they're supposed to stay in sync *always*. -- Dissent is patriotic, remember? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4BE07A94.5070808(a)cox.net
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