merge SP3 into a vanilla XP disc [Windows XP Basics]

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From: W****n S. on 24 May 2010 12:37

"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> W****n S. wrote:
>> I tried this already with image burn and the disc seemed to come
>> out ok but when I tried to use the disc it gave me a BSOD after it
>> had loaded most of the files.
>>
>> I am trying to do this because I am wondering what will happen when
>> support is stopped for XP prior to SP3.
>>
>> Will a person still be able to use a vanilla disc and then update
>> it from there or will there be issues with this once support stops?
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>
> I am sure Windows XP SP1a, SP2 and SP3 will be available for download long
> after the extended support period ends.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselect
> -->
> http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/
> (Phases of the Support Lifecycle)
> -->
> For Windows XP (Professional/Home) we are in the "Extended Support" part
> of the lifecycle. Goes through 2014 (April 8th or so of that year.) If
> you are still running Windows XP at that point, there will probably be a
> lot you will be unable to do. ;-)
>
> Anyway - if you are looking to integrate (some call it slipstreaming, and
> I guess that has taken on its own life now, whether or not it is actually
> called that originally) SP3 into your installation media - I can tell you
> how I do it and/or you could just download SP3 and all the post-SP3
> patches you can find, all your hardware drivers, etc and put them on a CD
> to use when you (if you) install Windows XP after April 8, 2014 - if you
> (for whatever reason) cannot get SP3, etc then.
>
> Many people utilize tools like AutoStreamer or nLite to
> intgrate/slipstream
> updates into the installation media. nLite (I believe) has a way/hack that
> 'integrates' Internet Explorer 7 - but to be honest, _I_ would not do
> that.
>
> Getting the updates - that is fairly simple.
>
> One way...
>
> You can see the critical (security and other) patches released for a given
> month using the following:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms##-***.mspx
>
> At the end of this line you see "ms##-***.mspx" .. If you simply replace
> ##
> with the two-digit year and the *** with the three character month
> abbreviation, you will see the list of "critical" and "important" patches
> for that month (since it only happens once a month usually, if you check
> by
> the second Tuesday (wait until afternoon) of each month - you should be
> fine) - note that future months will not work - although they may have an
> "Advance Notification for" in place when the actual time approaches.
>
> Example:
>
> November 2009
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms09-nov.mspx
>
>
> Another way...
>
> Windows Updates Downloader
> http://www.windowsupdatesdownloader.com/
>
>
> Another way...
>
> Security updates are available on ISO-9660 DVD5 image files from the
> Microsoft Download Center
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913086
>
>
> The second is truly the easiest for most people. Most of the updates you
> can get have an /integrate switch. Pretty much the same way you do the
> service packs.
>
> Although many people use the nlite/autostreamer and other similar tools -
> I
> stick with the original.
>
> Copy the installation CD files to a directory on a Windows XP system (I
> prefer doing the integration on a working system of the same version,
> although it is not usually necessary...) - preferably a short path like
> "C:\WinXP". Downloading the full latest service pack and the patches I
> want
> to integrate using one of the methods above and putting them all into a
> different (but short as well) path like "C:\XPPatch" - no sub-directories.
>
> Integrating the service pack first - in this case, given what I have, the
> command would be:
>
> "C:\XPPatch\WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe" /integrate:C:\WinXP
>
> and after some time, it would be done.
>
> Then I would integrate the other patches that I could. There would be
> *quite a few* updates, so I could either do them one-by-one using this
> command with the appropriate substitutions...
>
> "C:\XPPatch\WindowsXP-KB??????-x86-enu.exe" /integrate:C:\WinXP
>
> Or I could create a batch script to run through and do them for me:
>
> <start batch script here - copy below this line>
>
> set sourcedir=C:\WinXP
> set patchdir=C:\XPPatch
>
> for %%U in (%patchdir%\WindowsXP-KB??????-x86-enu.exe) DO (
> if not exist %svcpackdir%\%%U (
> @ECHO Now integrating %%U . . .
> @ECHO.
> start /wait %%U /integrate:%sourcedir%
> )
> )
>
> @ECHO Windows XP Updates Integrated into your Installation Media.
> @ECHO Burn your new media.
> <end batch script here - copy above this line>
>
> And running that would integrate the majority of the available patches and
> automatically integrate them - only pausing for me to click OK on each of
> the patches "Success" or "Failure" messages. You could make it silent with
> a little modification.
>
> The reason it cannot get them all is that some patches do not integrate
> and
> some do not use the same naming scheme (although you could rename them so
> they do...)
>
> I then use BBIE (Bart's Boot Image Extractor) to take the 'boot image' off
> the original Windows XP CD and save it to a file so I can burn a bootable
> Windows XP CD with the integrations I have made. Depending on what CD
> burning software or ISO creation software you use - the instructions can
> differ a bit here... This part is important when burning to CD: Set Load
> segment of sectors (hex) to 0000 and set Number of loaded sectors to 4. Or
> at least that is something I always remember.
>
> That's just the way I have done it - even though I have used the other
> methods, I find that one the most reliable.
>
> Some have trouble finding the downloads for Windows XP SP1a, SP2
> and SP3 they might need...
>
> Windows XP SP1a for IT Professionals (it works for anyone really)
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=83E4E879-FA3A-48BF-ADE5-023443E29D78
>

Is this link still good? It comes up as not found??

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=83E4E879-FA3A-48BF-ADE5-023443E29D78&displaylang=en

From: W****n S. on 24 May 2010 13:10

From: Daave on 24 May 2010 14:14

W****n S. wrote:
> "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ukqU5Jw%23KHA.4652(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> W****n S. wrote:
>>> I tried this already with image burn and the disc seemed to come
>>> out ok but when I tried to use the disc it gave me a BSOD after it
>>> had loaded most of the files.
>>>
>>> I am trying to do this because I am wondering what will happen when
>>> support is stopped for XP prior to SP3.
>>>
>>> Will a person still be able to use a vanilla disc and then update
>>> it from there or will there be issues with this once support stops?
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> I am sure Windows XP SP1a, SP2 and SP3 will be available for
>> download long after the extended support period ends.
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselect
>> -->
>> http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/
>> (Phases of the Support Lifecycle)
>> -->
>
>
> Not to be a thorn, but I am finding that SP1 is not easy to find. I
> was able to find SP1a but no good links to SP1.
>
> If I download SP2 do I need SP1 or SP1a to install it? Or can I just
> install SP2 after a vanilla XP Home install??
>
> Thanks again for the time.

Presumably by "vanilla XP Home" you mean XP Gold (i.e., the first
version, without any Service Packs).

You may upgrade that directly to SP2. This means there is no need for
SP1a (SP1 is no longer available on the MS Web site due to copyright
reasons involving Java). Once you are at SP2, you may upgrade to SP3.

(Unfortunately, Microsoft didn't seem to be able to allow for XP Gold to
be upgraded directly to SP3.)

The other upgrade path is Gold to SP1a to SP3.

Then again, if you are able to successfully integrate SP3 to your
original installation CD, you'll already be there. ;-)

From: W****n S. on 24 May 2010 17:58

"Daave" <daave(a)example.com> wrote in message
news:OBO6kz2%23KHA.4472(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> W****n S. wrote:
>> "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ukqU5Jw%23KHA.4652(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> W****n S. wrote:
>>>> I tried this already with image burn and the disc seemed to come
>>>> out ok but when I tried to use the disc it gave me a BSOD after it
>>>> had loaded most of the files.
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to do this because I am wondering what will happen when
>>>> support is stopped for XP prior to SP3.
>>>>
>>>> Will a person still be able to use a vanilla disc and then update
>>>> it from there or will there be issues with this once support stops?
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> I am sure Windows XP SP1a, SP2 and SP3 will be available for
>>> download long after the extended support period ends.
>>>
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselect
>>> -->
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/
>>> (Phases of the Support Lifecycle)
>>> -->
>>
>>
>> Not to be a thorn, but I am finding that SP1 is not easy to find. I
>> was able to find SP1a but no good links to SP1.
>>
>> If I download SP2 do I need SP1 or SP1a to install it? Or can I just
>> install SP2 after a vanilla XP Home install??
>>
>> Thanks again for the time.
>
> Presumably by "vanilla XP Home" you mean XP Gold (i.e., the first version,
> without any Service Packs).
>
> You may upgrade that directly to SP2. This means there is no need for SP1a
> (SP1 is no longer available on the MS Web site due to copyright reasons
> involving Java). Once you are at SP2, you may upgrade to SP3.
>
> (Unfortunately, Microsoft didn't seem to be able to allow for XP Gold to
> be upgraded directly to SP3.)
>
> The other upgrade path is Gold to SP1a to SP3.
>
> Then again, if you are able to successfully integrate SP3 to your original
> installation CD, you'll already be there. ;-)
>

Hey thanks. Yes, I have a "Gold" XP Home install disc with no service packs
and if I can go from that to SP2 then I guess I am Golden.

Then SP3 is a no brainer at that point.

Thanks for the insight.

From: Daave on 24 May 2010 18:56

W****n S. wrote:
> "Daave" <daave(a)example.com> wrote in message
> news:OBO6kz2%23KHA.4472(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> W****n S. wrote:
>>> "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ukqU5Jw%23KHA.4652(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> W****n S. wrote:
>>>>> I tried this already with image burn and the disc seemed to come
>>>>> out ok but when I tried to use the disc it gave me a BSOD after it
>>>>> had loaded most of the files.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am trying to do this because I am wondering what will happen
>>>>> when support is stopped for XP prior to SP3.
>>>>>
>>>>> Will a person still be able to use a vanilla disc and then update
>>>>> it from there or will there be issues with this once support
>>>>> stops? Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> I am sure Windows XP SP1a, SP2 and SP3 will be available for
>>>> download long after the extended support period ends.
>>>>
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselect
>>>> -->
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/
>>>> (Phases of the Support Lifecycle)
>>>> -->
>>>
>>>
>>> Not to be a thorn, but I am finding that SP1 is not easy to find. I
>>> was able to find SP1a but no good links to SP1.
>>>
>>> If I download SP2 do I need SP1 or SP1a to install it? Or can I
>>> just install SP2 after a vanilla XP Home install??
>>>
>>> Thanks again for the time.
>>
>> Presumably by "vanilla XP Home" you mean XP Gold (i.e., the first
>> version, without any Service Packs).
>>
>> You may upgrade that directly to SP2. This means there is no need
>> for SP1a (SP1 is no longer available on the MS Web site due to
>> copyright reasons involving Java). Once you are at SP2, you may
>> upgrade to SP3. (Unfortunately, Microsoft didn't seem to be able to
>> allow for XP
>> Gold to be upgraded directly to SP3.)
>>
>> The other upgrade path is Gold to SP1a to SP3.
>>
>> Then again, if you are able to successfully integrate SP3 to your
>> original installation CD, you'll already be there. ;-)
>>
>
> Hey thanks. Yes, I have a "Gold" XP Home install disc with no
> service packs and if I can go from that to SP2 then I guess I am
> Golden.
> Then SP3 is a no brainer at that point.
>
> Thanks for the insight.

You're very welcome.

Once you are at SP3 and have installed all the subsequent security
patches (there are dozens!) and all your programs, that would be great
time to create an image of your C: drive. Once this is done, you won't
have a need to perform a Clean Install ever again. If you ever need to
"start fresh," simply restore the image. Much easier!

If you need a free program to do this, DriveImageXML does the trick.
However, you will also need to create your own bootable rescue CD like
UBCD4Win or BartPE if there comes a time when you need to restore the
image:

http://www.runtime.org/peb.htm

An alternative is to use a commercial program with more bells and
whistles like Acronis True Image.

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