merge SP3 into a vanilla XP disc
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From: W****n S. on 23 May 2010 21:33 I tried this already with image burn and the disc seemed to come out ok but when I tried to use the disc it gave me a BSOD after it had loaded most of the files. I am trying to do this because I am wondering what will happen when support is stopped for XP prior to SP3. Will a person still be able to use a vanilla disc and then update it from there or will there be issues with this once support stops? Any thoughts? Thx, WS
From: Shenan Stanley on 24 May 2010 01:32 W****n S. wrote: > I tried this already with image burn and the disc seemed to come > out ok but when I tried to use the disc it gave me a BSOD after it > had loaded most of the files. > > I am trying to do this because I am wondering what will happen when > support is stopped for XP prior to SP3. > > Will a person still be able to use a vanilla disc and then update > it from there or will there be issues with this once support stops? > > Any thoughts? I am sure Windows XP SP1a, SP2 and SP3 will be available for download long after the extended support period ends. http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselect --> http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/ (Phases of the Support Lifecycle) --> For Windows XP (Professional/Home) we are in the "Extended Support" part of the lifecycle. Goes through 2014 (April 8th or so of that year.) If you are still running Windows XP at that point, there will probably be a lot you will be unable to do. ;-) Anyway - if you are looking to integrate (some call it slipstreaming, and I guess that has taken on its own life now, whether or not it is actually called that originally) SP3 into your installation media - I can tell you how I do it and/or you could just download SP3 and all the post-SP3 patches you can find, all your hardware drivers, etc and put them on a CD to use when you (if you) install Windows XP after April 8, 2014 - if you (for whatever reason) cannot get SP3, etc then. Many people utilize tools like AutoStreamer or nLite to intgrate/slipstream updates into the installation media. nLite (I believe) has a way/hack that 'integrates' Internet Explorer 7 - but to be honest, _I_ would not do that. Getting the updates - that is fairly simple. One way... You can see the critical (security and other) patches released for a given month using the following: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms##-***.mspx At the end of this line you see "ms##-***.mspx" .. If you simply replace ## with the two-digit year and the *** with the three character month abbreviation, you will see the list of "critical" and "important" patches for that month (since it only happens once a month usually, if you check by the second Tuesday (wait until afternoon) of each month - you should be fine) - note that future months will not work - although they may have an "Advance Notification for" in place when the actual time approaches. Example: November 2009 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms09-nov.mspx Another way... Windows Updates Downloader http://www.windowsupdatesdownloader.com/ Another way... Security updates are available on ISO-9660 DVD5 image files from the Microsoft Download Center http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913086 The second is truly the easiest for most people. Most of the updates you can get have an /integrate switch. Pretty much the same way you do the service packs. Although many people use the nlite/autostreamer and other similar tools - I stick with the original. Copy the installation CD files to a directory on a Windows XP system (I prefer doing the integration on a working system of the same version, although it is not usually necessary...) - preferably a short path like "C:\WinXP". Downloading the full latest service pack and the patches I want to integrate using one of the methods above and putting them all into a different (but short as well) path like "C:\XPPatch" - no sub-directories. Integrating the service pack first - in this case, given what I have, the command would be: "C:\XPPatch\WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe" /integrate:C:\WinXP and after some time, it would be done. Then I would integrate the other patches that I could. There would be *quite a few* updates, so I could either do them one-by-one using this command with the appropriate substitutions... "C:\XPPatch\WindowsXP-KB??????-x86-enu.exe" /integrate:C:\WinXP Or I could create a batch script to run through and do them for me: <start batch script here - copy below this line> set sourcedir=C:\WinXP set patchdir=C:\XPPatch for %%U in (%patchdir%\WindowsXP-KB??????-x86-enu.exe) DO ( if not exist %svcpackdir%\%%U ( @ECHO Now integrating %%U . . . @ECHO. start /wait %%U /integrate:%sourcedir% ) ) @ECHO Windows XP Updates Integrated into your Installation Media. @ECHO Burn your new media. <end batch script here - copy above this line> And running that would integrate the majority of the available patches and automatically integrate them - only pausing for me to click OK on each of the patches "Success" or "Failure" messages. You could make it silent with a little modification. The reason it cannot get them all is that some patches do not integrate and some do not use the same naming scheme (although you could rename them so they do...) I then use BBIE (Bart's Boot Image Extractor) to take the 'boot image' off the original Windows XP CD and save it to a file so I can burn a bootable Windows XP CD with the integrations I have made. Depending on what CD burning software or ISO creation software you use - the instructions can differ a bit here... This part is important when burning to CD: Set Load segment of sectors (hex) to 0000 and set Number of loaded sectors to 4. Or at least that is something I always remember. That's just the way I have done it - even though I have used the other methods, I find that one the most reliable. Some have trouble finding the downloads for Windows XP SP1a, SP2 and SP3 they might need... Windows XP SP1a for IT Professionals (it works for anyone really) http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=83E4E879-FA3A-48BF-ADE5-023443E29D78 Windows XP SP2 for IT Professionals (it works for anyone really) http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=049C9DBE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A Windows XP Service Pack 3 - ISO-9660 CD Image File http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=2fcde6ce-b5fb-4488-8c50-fe22559d164e Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network Installation Package for IT Professionals and Developers (it works for anyone really) http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=5B33B5A8-5E76-401F-BE08-1E1555D4F3D4 -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
From: LVTravel on 24 May 2010 05:36 "W****n S." <Thisisnotreal(a)guess.com> wrote in message news:ey#8iEu#KHA.1888(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > I tried this already with image burn and the disc seemed to come out ok > but when I tried to use the disc it gave me a BSOD after it had loaded > most of the files. > > I am trying to do this because I am wondering what will happen when > support is stopped for XP prior to SP3. > > Will a person still be able to use a vanilla disc and then update it from > there or will there be issues with this once support stops? > > Any thoughts? > > Thx, > > WS > I really don't know why everyone is so afraid that the SPs and already created fixes for XP will not be available when the support ends in 2014. MS still has all service packs and fixes available for Win 2000 on their servers for download and that support ended a really long time ago. Even fixes are available for Win 98 and ME and that support ended in 2005. Office 97 SR 1 and 2b are still available and that software is more than 13 years old now.
From: John John - MVP on 24 May 2010 06:41 LVTravel wrote: > > > "W****n S." <Thisisnotreal(a)guess.com> wrote in message > news:ey#8iEu#KHA.1888(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> I tried this already with image burn and the disc seemed to come out >> ok but when I tried to use the disc it gave me a BSOD after it had >> loaded most of the files. >> >> I am trying to do this because I am wondering what will happen when >> support is stopped for XP prior to SP3. >> >> Will a person still be able to use a vanilla disc and then update it >> from there or will there be issues with this once support stops? >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> Thx, >> >> WS >> > > I really don't know why everyone is so afraid that the SPs and already > created fixes for XP will not be available when the support ends in > 2014. MS still has all service packs and fixes available for Win 2000 on > their servers for download and that support ended a really long time > ago. Windows 2000 is in extended support until June of this year. John
From: W****n S. on 24 May 2010 10:22
Thanks for a well thought out response. It looks as though there will be nothing to worry about with all the data available, even beyond 2014.(If we make it past 2012.) : ) "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:ukqU5Jw%23KHA.4652(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > W****n S. wrote: >> I tried this already with image burn and the disc seemed to come >> out ok but when I tried to use the disc it gave me a BSOD after it >> had loaded most of the files. >> >> I am trying to do this because I am wondering what will happen when >> support is stopped for XP prior to SP3. >> >> Will a person still be able to use a vanilla disc and then update >> it from there or will there be issues with this once support stops? >> >> Any thoughts? > > I am sure Windows XP SP1a, SP2 and SP3 will be available for download long > after the extended support period ends. > > http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselect > --> > http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/ > (Phases of the Support Lifecycle) > --> > For Windows XP (Professional/Home) we are in the "Extended Support" part > of the lifecycle. Goes through 2014 (April 8th or so of that year.) If > you are still running Windows XP at that point, there will probably be a > lot you will be unable to do. ;-) > > Anyway - if you are looking to integrate (some call it slipstreaming, and > I guess that has taken on its own life now, whether or not it is actually > called that originally) SP3 into your installation media - I can tell you > how I do it and/or you could just download SP3 and all the post-SP3 > patches you can find, all your hardware drivers, etc and put them on a CD > to use when you (if you) install Windows XP after April 8, 2014 - if you > (for whatever reason) cannot get SP3, etc then. > > Many people utilize tools like AutoStreamer or nLite to > intgrate/slipstream > updates into the installation media. nLite (I believe) has a way/hack that > 'integrates' Internet Explorer 7 - but to be honest, _I_ would not do > that. > > Getting the updates - that is fairly simple. > > One way... > > You can see the critical (security and other) patches released for a given > month using the following: > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms##-***.mspx > > At the end of this line you see "ms##-***.mspx" .. If you simply replace > ## > with the two-digit year and the *** with the three character month > abbreviation, you will see the list of "critical" and "important" patches > for that month (since it only happens once a month usually, if you check > by > the second Tuesday (wait until afternoon) of each month - you should be > fine) - note that future months will not work - although they may have an > "Advance Notification for" in place when the actual time approaches. > > Example: > > November 2009 > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms09-nov.mspx > > > Another way... > > Windows Updates Downloader > http://www.windowsupdatesdownloader.com/ > > > Another way... > > Security updates are available on ISO-9660 DVD5 image files from the > Microsoft Download Center > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913086 > > > The second is truly the easiest for most people. Most of the updates you > can get have an /integrate switch. Pretty much the same way you do the > service packs. > > Although many people use the nlite/autostreamer and other similar tools - > I > stick with the original. > > Copy the installation CD files to a directory on a Windows XP system (I > prefer doing the integration on a working system of the same version, > although it is not usually necessary...) - preferably a short path like > "C:\WinXP". Downloading the full latest service pack and the patches I > want > to integrate using one of the methods above and putting them all into a > different (but short as well) path like "C:\XPPatch" - no sub-directories. > > Integrating the service pack first - in this case, given what I have, the > command would be: > > "C:\XPPatch\WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe" /integrate:C:\WinXP > > and after some time, it would be done. > > Then I would integrate the other patches that I could. There would be > *quite a few* updates, so I could either do them one-by-one using this > command with the appropriate substitutions... > > "C:\XPPatch\WindowsXP-KB??????-x86-enu.exe" /integrate:C:\WinXP > > Or I could create a batch script to run through and do them for me: > > <start batch script here - copy below this line> > > set sourcedir=C:\WinXP > set patchdir=C:\XPPatch > > for %%U in (%patchdir%\WindowsXP-KB??????-x86-enu.exe) DO ( > if not exist %svcpackdir%\%%U ( > @ECHO Now integrating %%U . . . > @ECHO. > start /wait %%U /integrate:%sourcedir% > ) > ) > > @ECHO Windows XP Updates Integrated into your Installation Media. > @ECHO Burn your new media. > <end batch script here - copy above this line> > > And running that would integrate the majority of the available patches and > automatically integrate them - only pausing for me to click OK on each of > the patches "Success" or "Failure" messages. You could make it silent with > a little modification. > > The reason it cannot get them all is that some patches do not integrate > and > some do not use the same naming scheme (although you could rename them so > they do...) > > I then use BBIE (Bart's Boot Image Extractor) to take the 'boot image' off > the original Windows XP CD and save it to a file so I can burn a bootable > Windows XP CD with the integrations I have made. Depending on what CD > burning software or ISO creation software you use - the instructions can > differ a bit here... This part is important when burning to CD: Set Load > segment of sectors (hex) to 0000 and set Number of loaded sectors to 4. Or > at least that is something I always remember. > > That's just the way I have done it - even though I have used the other > methods, I find that one the most reliable. > > Some have trouble finding the downloads for Windows XP SP1a, SP2 > and SP3 they might need... > > Windows XP SP1a for IT Professionals (it works for anyone really) > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=83E4E879-FA3A-48BF-ADE5-023443E29D78 > > Windows XP SP2 for IT Professionals (it works for anyone really) > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=049C9DBE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A > > Windows XP Service Pack 3 - ISO-9660 CD Image File > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=2fcde6ce-b5fb-4488-8c50-fe22559d164e > > Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network Installation Package for > IT Professionals and Developers (it works for anyone really) > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=5B33B5A8-5E76-401F-BE08-1E1555D4F3D4 > > -- > Shenan Stanley > MS-MVP > -- > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > |