From: Max on
I just started going through _Dynamic Epistemic Logic_ by van
Ditmarsch et al. I am a little rusty on modal logic and have gotten
stuck on an early exercise.

The problem is actually misstated in the book, but I'm pretty sure
that what they mean (or, the component of what they're asking for that
I'm stuck on) is:

Let the logic _K''_ result from the usual logic _K_ by replacing the
axiom scheme

k: L(A->B) -> (LA -> LB)

with the scheme

k'': L(A.B) -> LA . LB.

Show that every instance of the k scheme is derivable in the logic
_K''_.

Can somebody please help me out!

Thanks,

Max
From: Frederick Williams on
Max wrote:
>
> I just started going through _Dynamic Epistemic Logic_ by van
> Ditmarsch et al. I am a little rusty on modal logic and have gotten
> stuck on an early exercise.
>
> The problem is actually misstated in the book, but I'm pretty sure
> that what they mean (or, the component of what they're asking for that
> I'm stuck on) is:
>
> Let the logic _K''_ result from the usual logic _K_ by replacing the
> axiom scheme
>
> k: L(A->B) -> (LA -> LB)
>
> with the scheme
>
> k'': L(A.B) -> LA . LB.
>
> Show that every instance of the k scheme is derivable in the logic
> _K''_.
>
> Can somebody please help me out!

It helps to recall that A->B is A<->A.B and to derive the rule
A<->B / LA<->LB.
--
Pigeons were widely suspected of secret intercourse with the
enemy; counter-measures included the use of British birds of
prey to intercept suspicious pigeons in mid-air.
Christopher Andrew, 'Defence of the Realm', Allen Lane
From: Max Weiss on

On Jan 17, 7:38 am, Frederick Williams <frederick.willia...(a)tesco.net>
wrote:
> It helps to recall that A->B is A<->A.B and to derive the rule
> A<->B / LA<->LB.

Thanks! Could you please spell out the derivation? ---Max




> Max wrote:
>
> > I just started going through _Dynamic Epistemic Logic_ by van
> > Ditmarsch et al. I am a little rusty on modal logic and have gotten
> > stuck on an early exercise.
>
> > The problem is actually misstated in the book, but I'm pretty sure
> > that what they mean (or, the component of what they're asking for that
> > I'm stuck on) is:
>
> > Let the logic _K''_ result from the usual logic _K_ by replacing the
> > axiom scheme
>
> > k: L(A->B) -> (LA -> LB)
>
> > with the scheme
>
> > k'': L(A.B) -> LA . LB.
>
> > Show that every instance of the k scheme is derivable in the logic
> > _K''_.
>
> > Can somebody please help me out!
>
From: William Elliot on
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010, Frederick Williams wrote:

>> Let the logic _K''_ result from the usual logic _K_ by replacing the
>> axiom scheme
>>
>> k: L(A->B) -> (LA -> LB)
>>
>> with the scheme
>>
>> k'': L(A.B) -> LA . LB.
>>
>> Show that every instance of the k scheme is derivable in the logic
>> _K''_.
>>
>> Can somebody please help me out!

> It helps to recall that A->B is A<->A.B and to derive the rule
> A<->B / LA<->LB.

That can be derived?
Then (A <-> B) -> (LA <-> LB).

L(A <-> B) -> (LA <-> LB) is believable as is

|- A <-> B implies |- LA <-> LB.


From: David C. Ullrich on
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 03:16:41 -0800, William Elliot
<marsh(a)rdrop.remove.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Jan 2010, Frederick Williams wrote:
>
>>> Let the logic _K''_ result from the usual logic _K_ by replacing the
>>> axiom scheme
>>>
>>> k: L(A->B) -> (LA -> LB)
>>>
>>> with the scheme
>>>
>>> k'': L(A.B) -> LA . LB.
>>>
>>> Show that every instance of the k scheme is derivable in the logic
>>> _K''_.
>>>
>>> Can somebody please help me out!
>
>> It helps to recall that A->B is A<->A.B and to derive the rule
>> A<->B / LA<->LB.
>
>That can be derived?
>Then (A <-> B) -> (LA <-> LB).

Why?

>L(A <-> B) -> (LA <-> LB) is believable as is
>
>|- A <-> B implies |- LA <-> LB.

Are you certain you know what he meant by the
symbol "/"? I'm not, but I _suspect_ that when
he says "A<->B / LA<->LB" that means exactly
the same thing as "|- A <-> B implies |- LA <-> LB".



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