From: John Larkin on
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 00:18:53 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman(a)ieee.org> wrote:

>On Apr 17, 1:27�am, dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
>> On Apr 16, 6:02�am,Bill Sloman<bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 16, 8:41�am, dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> > > On Apr 14, 3:41�am,Bill Sloman<bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
>>
>> > > > On Apr 14, 2:01�am, John Larkin
>> > > > > Get a job, bozo. Design some electronics.
>>
>> > > > "Get a job" is easier said than done, particularly for a 67-year-old
>> > > > in the Netherlands. I'm still applying for the occasional job, but the
>> > > > statistical expectation that I'll ever get one around here has gotten
>> > > > to be vanishingly small.
>>
>> > > Obama and Pelosi have told us their new healthscare[tm] mandatory
>> > > insurance thing will put jobs here in overdrive, spur innovation.
>> > > (They're trying to copy you guys, sort of.) (Or maybe Venezuela.)
>>
>> > > Since you already have that, it ought to be easy for you to start up a
>> > > company, and probably a lot of fun. � Just chunk out your life
>> > > savings, hire a few employees, and off you go.
>>
>> > James Arthur doesn't seem to have noticed Obama's "new" mandatory
>> > insurance thing was iveted by Bismark in Germany over a century ago.
>> > It might conceiveably spur innovation in the USA - though the 64%
>>
>> 85%
>>
>> > of
>> > the US population who already have medical insurance would seem to be
>> > a perfectly adequate market to drive whatever innovation is necessary
>>
>> Obama said otherwise. �But then, he says so many things. �Shrug.
>>
>> > - but it isn't going to make a blind bit of difference to my
>> > environment, where the nearest I've got to a job in recent years was
>> > when Philips Medical Systems was contemplating developing a phased
>> > array of ultrasound transducers for cooking tumours in situ - an old
>> > idea that is still waiting on a method for measuring the temperature
>> > rise inside the tumour being cooked.
>>
>> > I asked about temperature monitoring during the interview, and didn't
>> > get an answer ...
>>
>> You're right, it's not creating jobs here either:http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/ArticlePrint.aspx?id=530389
>>
>> So, back to the question, why not start your own outfit, and do it
>> right? �That's what makes the world a better place, people starting
>> cool companies and hiring folks to work in them.
>
>My wife has been after me to do that for years. It does require
>inventing a product that could be developed without investing more
>capital than we've got, which could be sold to a significant number of
>customers without requring me to set up some kind of distribution
>network.
>
>Since most of the work I've done has been on complex and expensive
>scientific instruments sold into the international market in small
>qunatities, my inspirations haven't yet met these criteria.

That is precisely the market where a precision design could be sold in
modest quantities for big bucks, and where potential users are easy to
find. Scientific instruments often have horrible electronics. If you
can improve the s/n of a million dollar instrument by, say, 30 dB, it
will attract attention. And orders.

It takes very little capital to develop a small electronic gadget
these days. Test equipment, exotic parts, uP development boards,
multilayer pc boards... all are amazingly cheap and plentiful
nowadays. A decent oscilloscope used to cost as much as a new car; no
longer. This is a golden age in which one person can design important
electronics.

John

From: Michael A. Terrell on

"krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote:
>
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 05:40:49 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote:
> >>
> >> Fun? You must like dentists, too. ;-)
> >
> >
> > Not me. I prefer an oral surgeon who knows what they are doing.
> >Twice, I've had dentists who couldn't remove a damaged tooth and had to
> >wait days to see an oral surgeon. :(
>
> You're lucky. My boss had a couple of dentists, here, try to save a tooth,
> only to have to go to a surgeon to have it removed (and an implant inserted).
> Each one charged like they saved the tooth.


Lucky? They won't do the surgery if they don't see a severe
infection & swelling. Some hurt for several years before they will cut
it out.

As far as trying to save teeth, I had seven root canals before
finally getting someone to remove all my upper teeth. The wait allowed
the infection to eat most of the bone ridge, so I can't wear an upper
plate.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
From: krw on
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 19:19:05 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>"krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 05:40:49 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Fun? You must like dentists, too. ;-)
>> >
>> >
>> > Not me. I prefer an oral surgeon who knows what they are doing.
>> >Twice, I've had dentists who couldn't remove a damaged tooth and had to
>> >wait days to see an oral surgeon. :(
>>
>> You're lucky. My boss had a couple of dentists, here, try to save a tooth,
>> only to have to go to a surgeon to have it removed (and an implant inserted).
>> Each one charged like they saved the tooth.
>
>
> Lucky? They won't do the surgery if they don't see a severe
>infection & swelling. Some hurt for several years before they will cut
>it out.
>
> As far as trying to save teeth, I had seven root canals before
>finally getting someone to remove all my upper teeth. The wait allowed
>the infection to eat most of the bone ridge, so I can't wear an upper
>plate.

Sounds like malpractice, to me.
From: Bill Sloman on
On Apr 17, 9:56 pm, John Larkin
<jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 00:18:53 -0700 (PDT),Bill Sloman
>
>
>
> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> >On Apr 17, 1:27 am, dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
> >> On Apr 16, 6:02 am,Bill Sloman<bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
>
> >> > On Apr 16, 8:41 am, dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >> > > On Apr 14, 3:41 am,Bill Sloman<bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
>
> >> > > > On Apr 14, 2:01 am, John Larkin
> >> > > > > Get a job, bozo. Design some electronics.
>
> >> > > > "Get a job" is easier said than done, particularly for a 67-year-old
> >> > > > in the Netherlands. I'm still applying for the occasional job, but the
> >> > > > statistical expectation that I'll ever get one around here has gotten
> >> > > > to be vanishingly small.
>
> >> > > Obama and Pelosi have told us their new healthscare[tm] mandatory
> >> > > insurance thing will put jobs here in overdrive, spur innovation.
> >> > > (They're trying to copy you guys, sort of.) (Or maybe Venezuela.)
>
> >> > > Since you already have that, it ought to be easy for you to start up a
> >> > > company, and probably a lot of fun.   Just chunk out your life
> >> > > savings, hire a few employees, and off you go.
>
> >> > James Arthur doesn't seem to have noticed Obama's "new" mandatory
> >> > insurance thing was iveted by Bismark in Germany over a century ago.
> >> > It might conceiveably spur innovation in the USA - though the 64%
>
> >> 85%
>
> >> > of
> >> > the US population who already have medical insurance would seem to be
> >> > a perfectly adequate market to drive whatever innovation is necessary
>
> >> Obama said otherwise.  But then, he says so many things.  Shrug.
>
> >> > - but it isn't going to make a blind bit of difference to my
> >> > environment, where the nearest I've got to a job in recent years was
> >> > when Philips Medical Systems was contemplating developing a phased
> >> > array of ultrasound transducers for cooking tumours in situ - an old
> >> > idea that is still waiting on a method for measuring the temperature
> >> > rise inside the tumour being cooked.
>
> >> > I asked about temperature monitoring during the interview, and didn't
> >> > get an answer ...
>
> >> You're right, it's not creating jobs here either:http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/ArticlePrint.aspx?id=530389
>
> >> So, back to the question, why not start your own outfit, and do it
> >> right?  That's what makes the world a better place, people starting
> >> cool companies and hiring folks to work in them.
>
> >My wife has been after me to do that for years. It does require
> >inventing a product that could be developed without investing more
> >capital than we've got, which could be sold to a significant number of
> >customers without requring me to set up some kind of distribution
> >network.
>
> >Since most of the work I've done has been on complex and expensive
> >scientific instruments sold into the international market in small
> >qunatities, my inspirations haven't yet met these criteria.
>
> That is precisely the market where a precision design could be sold in
> modest quantities for big bucks, and where potential users are easy to
> find. Scientific instruments often have horrible electronics. If you
> can improve the s/n of a million dollar instrument by, say, 30 dB, it
> will attract attention. And orders.

Getting far enough into a million dollar instrument to detect where
you can raise the s/n by 15dB does take some contact with the users.
Regular firms use the marketing department to make this more or less
impossible for the engineers who could do it.

> It takes very little capital to develop a small electronic gadget
> these days. Test equipment, exotic parts, uP development boards,
> multilayer pc boards... all are amazingly cheap and plentiful
> nowadays. A decent oscilloscope used to cost as much as a new car; no
> longer. This is a golden age in which one person can design important
> electronics.

If you can get into contact with the people who need the gadget. When
I first started posting on sci.electronics.design I hoped that it
would provide a forum where this could happen. Pity about that.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: Bill Sloman on
On Apr 17, 2:47 pm, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 00:18:53 -0700 (PDT),Bill Sloman
>
>
>
> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> >On Apr 17, 1:27 am, dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
> >> On Apr 16, 6:02 am,Bill Sloman<bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
>
> >> > On Apr 16, 8:41 am, dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >> > > On Apr 14, 3:41 am,Bill Sloman<bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
>
> >> > > > On Apr 14, 2:01 am, John Larkin
> >> > > > > Get a job, bozo. Design some electronics.
>
> >> > > > "Get a job" is easier said than done, particularly for a 67-year-old
> >> > > > in the Netherlands. I'm still applying for the occasional job, but the
> >> > > > statistical expectation that I'll ever get one around here has gotten
> >> > > > to be vanishingly small.
>
> >> > > Obama and Pelosi have told us their new healthscare[tm] mandatory
> >> > > insurance thing will put jobs here in overdrive, spur innovation.
> >> > > (They're trying to copy you guys, sort of.) (Or maybe Venezuela.)
>
> >> > > Since you already have that, it ought to be easy for you to start up a
> >> > > company, and probably a lot of fun.   Just chunk out your life
> >> > > savings, hire a few employees, and off you go.
>
> >> > James Arthur doesn't seem to have noticed Obama's "new" mandatory
> >> > insurance thing was iveted by Bismark in Germany over a century ago.
> >> > It might conceiveably spur innovation in the USA - though the 64%
>
> >> 85%
>
> >> > of
> >> > the US population who already have medical insurance would seem to be
> >> > a perfectly adequate market to drive whatever innovation is necessary
>
> >> Obama said otherwise.  But then, he says so many things.  Shrug.
>
> >> > - but it isn't going to make a blind bit of difference to my
> >> > environment, where the nearest I've got to a job in recent years was
> >> > when Philips Medical Systems was contemplating developing a phased
> >> > array of ultrasound transducers for cooking tumours in situ - an old
> >> > idea that is still waiting on a method for measuring the temperature
> >> > rise inside the tumour being cooked.
>
> >> > I asked about temperature monitoring during the interview, and didn't
> >> > get an answer ...
>
> >> You're right, it's not creating jobs here either:http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/ArticlePrint.aspx?id=530389
>
> >> So, back to the question, why not start your own outfit, and do it
> >> right?  That's what makes the world a better place, people starting
> >> cool companies and hiring folks to work in them.
>
> >My wife has been after me to do that for years. It does require
> >inventing a product that could be developed without investing more
> >capital than we've got, which could be sold to a significant number of
> >customers without requring me to set up some kind of distribution
> >network.
>
> >Since most of the work I've done has been on complex and expensive
> >scientific instruments sold into the international market in small
> >qunatities, my inspirations haven't yet met these criteria.
>
> ---
> Have you never heard of "Consulting"???

Sure. I've even done some, but nowhere near enough to live on.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen