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From: mm on 14 May 2010 16:21 On Fri, 14 May 2010 11:18:48 -0700, UCLAN <nomail(a)thanks.org> wrote: >mm wrote: > >> Is it possible that, when watching live digital over the air tv that >> occasionally a syllable will be missing from the words people speak? >> >> I think this has happened but I don't watch live so much anymore and >> I'm not sure. >> >> It's definitely true, if I record tv shows on the harddrive of my >> DVDR, that during replay, even when the picture shows not a blip, not >> the slightest problem, the sound is often missing a syllable. >> Sometimes maybe even two in a row. When I rewind and replay, it >> sounds no better. > >How does one "rewind" a harddrive? I forget the non-VCR word. Reverse and replay? > >> There are several "densities?" at which I can record tv shows. LP, >> SLP that sort of thing. I tried and used a "slower" recording speed >> for maybe 20 hours of recording, but it seemed to make no difference. > >That sounds like a DVD thing. Are you recording on to a DVD or to a HDD? Always to the hard drive. It's a Philips DVDR 3576H/36
From: mm on 14 May 2010 16:35 On Fri, 14 May 2010 08:34:40 -0700 (PDT), stratus46(a)yahoo.com wrote: >On May 13, 11:11�pm, mm <NOPSAMmm2...(a)bigfoot.com> wrote: >> Is it possible that, when watching live digital over the air tv that >> occasionally a syllable will be missing from the words people speak? >> >> I think this has happened but I don't watch live so much anymore and >> I'm not sure. >> >> It's definitely true, if I record tv shows on the harddrive of my >> DVDR, that during replay, even when the picture shows not a blip, not >> the slightest problem, the sound is often missing a syllable. >> Sometimes maybe even two in a row. �When I rewind and replay, it >> sounds no better. >> >> There are several "densities?" at which I can record tv shows. �LP, >> SLP that sort of thing. � I tried and used a "slower" recording speed >> for maybe 20 hours of recording, but it seemed to make no difference. >> >> Do you think a slower, that it, more space-consuming recording is less >> likely to omit syllables, or is it likely that the OTA signal itself >> is missing a trifle, or some third cause? >> >> I watch tv on analog tv's using an RF modulator. �That can't be the >> problem, can it? � >> >> Because it goes 10 to 30 minutes without missing a syllable, and then >> misses just one usually. >> >> Thanks. > >A simple lost syllable with no macroblocking or freezing of the video? On other occasions I have that too. I have checkerboarding, freezing, and total blanking sometimes, even on a local station. But I don't expect the sound to work then. It's cases where I see nothing wrong with the video that I'm trying to alleviate here. >I would say your VCR and analog TV is not at fault. I record 20 hrs a >week OTA using PCs and tuners (3 units) and have no issues with >breakup. When there _has_ been a problem the audio is typically last >to go. I've had that too, often, where the picture goes and then sometimes the sound does. I don't recall losing syllables during any of those cases, but I figure it's just that I don't have high expectations then. > Is this only with down-converted 1080/720 or does it happen >with 480i channels? I don't know. How do I tell one from another? I would like to check that out and keep a record of which kind of channel does this. I don't recall tvfool.com saying what a given station is. Should some function/button on the DVDR or set-top box show what is being received? >I'm leaning towards a faulty OTA box that isn't I'm using a DVDR with a built-in digital tuner, then a RF modulator and an analog TV. So is what you say here equivalent to saying the DVDR is faulty? >handling the down-conversion to std def. Do you have access to another >converter box I have one set-top box connected to another tv, but I'm not sure if I miss syllables there or not, because there is no way to record or playback. I suppose I could connect a VCR and record the same programs recorded on the DVDR in the other room, but the VCR is sort of buried now and might need some repair too. IOW, I can't do this for a while. >or alternatively could you install a digital tuner into >your PC? My first TV recorder in 2004 was a Sempron 2500 with 512 megs >RAM so you don't need the latest rocket computer. Tuners can be had >pretty cheap. A couple weeks back Frys had an ATI USB tuner for $30. That's worth it, although I have the better antenna at the DVDR, and I only get the strong stations at the settop box, and that would be the case at the computer too, only the strong stations. Thanks. >G�
From: Meat Plow on 15 May 2010 12:11 On Fri, 14 May 2010 09:21:38 -0700, Smitty Two wrote: > In article <pan.2010.05.14.16.09.20(a)gmail.com>, > Meat Plow <mhywatt(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, 14 May 2010 02:11:58 -0400, mm wrote: >> >> > Is it possible that, when watching live digital over the air tv that >> > occasionally a syllable will be missing from the words people speak? >> > >> > I think this has happened but I don't watch live so much anymore and >> > I'm not sure. >> > >> > It's definitely true, if I record tv shows on the harddrive of my >> > DVDR, that during replay, even when the picture shows not a blip, not >> > the slightest problem, the sound is often missing a syllable. >> > Sometimes maybe even two in a row. When I rewind and replay, it >> > sounds no better. >> > >> > There are several "densities?" at which I can record tv shows. LP, >> > SLP that sort of thing. I tried and used a "slower" recording speed >> > for maybe 20 hours of recording, but it seemed to make no difference. >> > >> > Do you think a slower, that it, more space-consuming recording is >> > less likely to omit syllables, or is it likely that the OTA signal >> > itself is missing a trifle, or some third cause? >> > >> > I watch tv on analog tv's using an RF modulator. That can't be the >> > problem, can it? >> > >> > Because it goes 10 to 30 minutes without missing a syllable, and then >> > misses just one usually. >> > >> > >> > Thanks. >> >> You're missing a brain cell here and there, troll. > > mm's not a troll, Meat. Slightly eccentric, but a regular elsewhere and > a moderately frequent visitor here. Yeah I know He's eccentric alright. I do see him in other groups like alt.home.repair and he asks the same kind of questions. I will try to be more understanding in the future and maybe even kill filter him since a lot of what he asks is general knowledge and not repair specific.
From: Eli Luong on 15 May 2010 18:03 On May 14, 1:35 pm, mm <NOPSAMmm2...(a)bigfoot.com> wrote: > >or alternatively could you install a digital tuner into > >your PC? My first TV recorder in 2004 was a Sempron 2500 with 512 megs > >RAM so you don't need the latest rocket computer. Tuners can be had > >pretty cheap. A couple weeks back Frys had an ATI USB tuner for $30. > > That's worth it, although I have the better antenna at the DVDR, and I > only get the strong stations at the settop box, and that would be the > case at the computer too, only the strong stations. > > Thanks. > > >G² Try building this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWQhlmJTMzw - it has given be awesome reception. Is there a way to check signal strength using the hardware you have? Usually the converter box has a screen somewhere, then you can see if it's a moderately strong, fluctuating signal. I've had to keep the signal well above 90% to prevent any glitching from occurring. I am going direct digital (not using the converter box), but in both cases I've had to keep the signal high.
From: Franc Zabkar on 16 May 2010 03:09
On Fri, 14 May 2010 02:11:58 -0400, mm <NOPSAMmm2005(a)bigfoot.com> put finger to keyboard and composed: >Is it possible that, when watching live digital over the air tv that >occasionally a syllable will be missing from the words people speak? I don't watch much TV anymore, but I noticed a few dropped syllables last night on Australian free-to-air DTV. Picture was perfect AFAICT. I also notice the occasional lip-synch problem. - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |