From: mm on
On Sun, 16 May 2010 17:09:55 +1000, Franc Zabkar
<fzabkar(a)iinternode.on.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 14 May 2010 02:11:58 -0400, mm <NOPSAMmm2005(a)bigfoot.com> put
>finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>Is it possible that, when watching live digital over the air tv that
>>occasionally a syllable will be missing from the words people speak?
>
>I don't watch much TV anymore, but I noticed a few dropped syllables
>last night on Australian free-to-air DTV. Picture was perfect AFAICT.
>I also notice the occasional lip-synch problem.
>
>- Franc Zabkar

AH! This might be the problem. I must be watching Australian TV!

I've been watching another tv live in the other room and haven't
noticed the problem, but this is the room with the computer, so my
mind is often not totally on the tv.

But since you weren't replaying through a harddrive recording, that's
an indication that's not my problem either.

Thanks.
From: Meat Plow on
On Sun, 16 May 2010 17:09:55 +1000, Franc Zabkar wrote:

> On Fri, 14 May 2010 02:11:58 -0400, mm <NOPSAMmm2005(a)bigfoot.com> put
> finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>Is it possible that, when watching live digital over the air tv that
>>occasionally a syllable will be missing from the words people speak?
>
> I don't watch much TV anymore, but I noticed a few dropped syllables
> last night on Australian free-to-air DTV. Picture was perfect AFAICT. I
> also notice the occasional lip-synch problem.
>

I was watching Greek TV last night and the audio was so bad I couldn't
understand what anyone was saying.

From: stratus46 on
On May 15, 3:03 pm, Eli Luong <elilu...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> Try building this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWQhlmJTMzw- it
has
> given be awesome reception.
>
> Is there a way to check signal strength using the hardware you
have?
> Usually the converter box has a screen somewhere, then you can see
if
> it's a moderately strong, fluctuating signal. I've had to keep the
> signal well above 90% to prevent any glitching from occurring. I am
> going direct digital (not using the converter box), but in both
cases
> I've had to keep the signal high.

It's a 4 bay bowtie similar to commercial units from Channel Master,
Winegard and others. It works OK on UHF but if you have high band VHF
like LA it won't be much help. It's nearly useless for low band VHF.

Signal strength by itself won't tell you much as a strong signal with
significant multipath (ghosts) will be poor for North American 8-VSB
DTV. A clean weak signal is much preferred over a strong 'dirty' one.
The ATI tuners register 66% signal on some channels with no breakup at
all. For multipath rejection an antenna with a high front-to-back
ratio helps and narrower front lobes (generally 'high gain' ) may be
needed in some places.


From: Franc Zabkar on
On Sun, 16 May 2010 12:44:18 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
<mhywatt(a)yahoo.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>On Sun, 16 May 2010 17:09:55 +1000, Franc Zabkar wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 02:11:58 -0400, mm <NOPSAMmm2005(a)bigfoot.com> put
>> finger to keyboard and composed:
>>
>>>Is it possible that, when watching live digital over the air tv that
>>>occasionally a syllable will be missing from the words people speak?
>>
>> I don't watch much TV anymore, but I noticed a few dropped syllables
>> last night on Australian free-to-air DTV. Picture was perfect AFAICT. I
>> also notice the occasional lip-synch problem.
>>
>
>I was watching Greek TV last night and the audio was so bad I couldn't
>understand what anyone was saying.

Oddly enough, it was a British program, "Midsomer Murders". Stranger
still, unlike "The Biw", it's one of the few British shows where I can
actually understand all the words. Cockneys appear to eat most of
their consonants. At least the Greeks bother to pronounce the "th" in
words such as "vat" and "fink". That said, Strine shows probably sound
just as unintelligible to British viewers.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
From: mm on
On Mon, 17 May 2010 08:03:51 +1000, Franc Zabkar
<fzabkar(a)iinternode.on.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 16 May 2010 12:44:18 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
><mhywatt(a)yahoo.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>On Sun, 16 May 2010 17:09:55 +1000, Franc Zabkar wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 02:11:58 -0400, mm <NOPSAMmm2005(a)bigfoot.com> put
>>> finger to keyboard and composed:
>>>
>>>>Is it possible that, when watching live digital over the air tv that
>>>>occasionally a syllable will be missing from the words people speak?
>>>
>>> I don't watch much TV anymore, but I noticed a few dropped syllables
>>> last night on Australian free-to-air DTV. Picture was perfect AFAICT. I
>>> also notice the occasional lip-synch problem.
>>>
>>
>>I was watching Greek TV last night and the audio was so bad I couldn't
>>understand what anyone was saying.
>
>Oddly enough, it was a British program, "Midsomer Murders". Stranger

That explains the lip-synch problems. They must have dubbed the
British into Australian.

>still, unlike "The Biw", it's one of the few British shows where I can
>actually understand all the words. Cockneys appear to eat most of
>their consonants. At least the Greeks bother to pronounce the "th" in
>words such as "vat" and "fink".

There's a "th" in "fink"?

Oh, think.

> That said, Strine shows probably sound
>just as unintelligible to British viewers.
>
>- Franc Zabkar

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