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From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 28 Mar 2010 13:13
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 18:03:07 +0100, Trevor Wright
<newstrap(a)thewrights.uk.com> wrote:

>In message
><1jg2oul.lnf9yy1g9h46oN%real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk>,
>D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> writes
>>Why Save as..., rather than Save?
>
>It's the first time I've saved the file. I want to choose a name and
>folder for it. ..

You'll get that with just Save too, first time.

>>And which folders are these?
>
>Ah... Well
>
>I think it's just one folder, and I think I've just solved it (hubris,
>etc) by changing the permissions. I didn't have read and write.
>
>Well... thanks for your help, and suggestions here put me onto
>permissions; I am a beginner, as I said.
>
>Though it does provoke a couple of thoughts: why would a folder have
>custom permissions? Is there a default for all folders?

On the Mac, *your* stuff lives in *your* user folder, in
/Users/Yournamehere/ . Outside that you won't automatically have
permissions to mess with things - because outside that belongs to the
system.

>And why is the Word error so incomprehensible? It says nothing about
>permissions.

That's Microsoft for you... it's a minor step up from "Memory Error",
which was the standard meaningless one they used to use, at least it
pointed at a disk!

Cheers - Jaimie
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From: Trevor Wright on 28 Mar 2010 13:14
In message <280320101805423789%nospam(a)yrl.co.uk>, Elliott Roper
>
>Different folder works? That sounds like you don't have write
>permissions for the first folder you try. In the Finder, select the
>folder and do a File › Get Info. See what it says under "sharing and
>permissions"
Yes, I think that's what it was (see other post).
>
>There remains an interesting question of how it got into this mess.
>Are you running separate admin and non-admin users? Is this an external
>disk? Did you inherit it from someone else?

I don't know why this happened. This is a new-ish computer, I am the
only user and have no inclination to limit my own access to things. I
can't believe I accidentally altered the permissions, though I suppose
it's the only explanation?
>

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Trevor Wright
From: D.M. Procida on 28 Mar 2010 13:16
Trevor Wright <newstrap(a)thewrights.uk.com> wrote:

> >Why Save as..., rather than Save?
>
> It's the first time I've saved the file. I want to choose a name and
> folder for it. ..

Just hit Save (Command-S), it'll ask you for those details anyway (at
least, I assume Word will - other applications do).

> >Which disk exactly is it trying to save to when yo get this message? You
> >can find that information in the Save... dialog box.
>
> I only have one disk - the iMac's hard drive. It is far from full.

Just be sure you're not inadvertantly trying to save to a mounted disk
image, for example of a CDROM, or a USB flash drive, or some other thing
that the Mac treats as a disk.

> >And which folders are these?
>
> Ah... Well
>
> I think it's just one folder, and I think I've just solved it (hubris,
> etc) by changing the permissions. I didn't have read and write.

Odd that they were set so, I can't think why they would be.

> Though it does provoke a couple of thoughts: why would a folder have
> custom permissions? Is there a default for all folders?
>
> And why is the Word error so incomprehensible? It says nothing about
> permissions.

I don't know, sorry.

Daniele
From: Elliott Roper on 28 Mar 2010 13:22
In article <iVZUx+t754rLFAbm(a)trevorwright.demon.co.uk>, Trevor Wright
<newstrap(a)thewrights.uk.com> wrote:

> In message <280320101805423789%nospam(a)yrl.co.uk>, Elliott Roper
> >
> >Different folder works? That sounds like you don't have write
> >permissions for the first folder you try. In the Finder, select the
> >folder and do a File � Get Info. See what it says under "sharing and
> >permissions"
> Yes, I think that's what it was (see other post).
> >
> >There remains an interesting question of how it got into this mess.
> >Are you running separate admin and non-admin users? Is this an external
> >disk? Did you inherit it from someone else?
>
> I don't know why this happened. This is a new-ish computer, I am the
> only user and have no inclination to limit my own access to things. I
> can't believe I accidentally altered the permissions, though I suppose
> it's the only explanation?

It was possible to get it tangled going from OS X 10.5 to 10.6 IIRC.
Somewhere about then Apple went a bit more unixy with the numerical
conventions for users and groups. 10.5 was a bit idiosyncratic in that
regard. After the upgrade it was possible to find yourself with the
same user name but a different number. Unfortunately, it is the number
that the file system uses. I forget how it happened to me but it bit me
hard. I skulked off and learnt some command line magic to fix it and
the promptly forgot how.

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From: Gavin on 28 Mar 2010 15:25
On 2010-03-28 18:14:35 +0100, Trevor Wright <newstrap(a)thewrights.uk.com> said:

> In message <280320101805423789%nospam(a)yrl.co.uk>, Elliott Roper
>>
>> Different folder works? That sounds like you don't have write
>> permissions for the first folder you try. In the Finder, select the
>> folder and do a File › Get Info. See what it says under "sharing and
>> permissions"
> Yes, I think that's what it was (see other post).
>>
>> There remains an interesting question of how it got into this mess.
>> Are you running separate admin and non-admin users? Is this an external
>> disk? Did you inherit it from someone else?
>
> I don't know why this happened. This is a new-ish computer, I am the
> only user and have no inclination to limit my own access to things. I
> can't believe I accidentally altered the permissions, though I suppose
> it's the only explanation?

Your saving to an system folder or similar, thats the only reason I can
think of that would give you the error you describe.

Just create a "Word" folder in your documents folder and use that, it
should work seamlessly from that point onwards.

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