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From: Sidney Lambe on 6 Mar 2010 13:00
On comp.os.linux.misc, Stan Bischof <stan(a)newserve.worldbadminton.com> wrote:
> jimmy_please(a)yahoo.com <jimmy_please(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I have a really old laptop with 32mb ram and 3 gig disk space, plus 1
>> usb, while still having hope to use for only web browsing.
>>
>> I've tried DSL but haven't figured out how to configure the wireless
>> usb dongle.
>> Knoppix is another option, as I was able to run it on an old desktop
>> with 640mb ram, and the wireless usb dongle is recognized as soon as I
>> plug it in. However, it won't boot the old laptop possibly due to the
>> size of the limited memory.
>>
>> Which Linux distribution I should use for this size of memory with
>> wireless usb dongle plug-n-play support?
>
> Save yourself a lot of grief and round up $40 or so and
> buy a used far-more-capable laptop.
>
> 32MB RAM is just not enough to do much of anything useful
> in the modern world.
>
> Stan
>

Nonsense. I normally use less than that. Unless you are using the
Internet as a virtual shopping mall or a new variation of the
boob tube for mindless entertainment, a textmode browser works
just fine and you can download images and view them with zgv if
needed.

Most of the images on the web are just eye-candy.

I don't use X, normally, but can if I choose, which
is rarely.

What you call "meaningful" is just the opposite.

As for commerce, it is foolish to do business with a company on
the web that doesn't have a phone number that you can order over.
And doing it this way is much more secure.

You are just another sellout trying to turn Linux into
a Windows clone.

Hackers into ignorant appliance operators.

Sid



From: TJ on 6 Mar 2010 13:56
On 03/06/2010 01:00 PM, Sidney Lambe wrote:
> On comp.os.linux.misc, Stan Bischof<stan(a)newserve.worldbadminton.com> wrote:
>> jimmy_please(a)yahoo.com<jimmy_please(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> I have a really old laptop with 32mb ram and 3 gig disk space, plus 1
>>> usb, while still having hope to use for only web browsing.
>>>
>>> I've tried DSL but haven't figured out how to configure the wireless
>>> usb dongle.
>>> Knoppix is another option, as I was able to run it on an old desktop
>>> with 640mb ram, and the wireless usb dongle is recognized as soon as I
>>> plug it in. However, it won't boot the old laptop possibly due to the
>>> size of the limited memory.
>>>
>>> Which Linux distribution I should use for this size of memory with
>>> wireless usb dongle plug-n-play support?
>>
>> Save yourself a lot of grief and round up $40 or so and
>> buy a used far-more-capable laptop.
>>
>> 32MB RAM is just not enough to do much of anything useful
>> in the modern world.
>>
>> Stan
>>
>
> Nonsense. I normally use less than that. Unless you are using the
> Internet as a virtual shopping mall or a new variation of the
> boob tube for mindless entertainment, a textmode browser works
> just fine and you can download images and view them with zgv if
> needed.
>
> Most of the images on the web are just eye-candy.
>
> I don't use X, normally, but can if I choose, which
> is rarely.
>
> What you call "meaningful" is just the opposite.
>
> As for commerce, it is foolish to do business with a company on
> the web that doesn't have a phone number that you can order over.
> And doing it this way is much more secure.
>
> You are just another sellout trying to turn Linux into
> a Windows clone.
>
> Hackers into ignorant appliance operators.
>
> Sid
>
>
>
So, giving your credit card number, including the security code on the
back, over the phone to some stranger in a minimum-wage phone-answering
job who can barely speak whatever your native tongue is, is somehow
"much more secure" than using an Internet site designed for the purpose?

Huh. I'll have to remember that.

Wow. I sure am glad I'm not *you*.

TJ
--
90 per cent of everything is crud.

- Theodore Sturgeon
From: J G Miller on 6 Mar 2010 14:06
On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:31:36 +0000, General Schvantzkoph wrote:

> Trying to use a 32M machine for anything more sophisticated then
> running your lawn sprinklers is just silly.

The Linksys NSLU2 has only 32 Mbyte of memory and can be used for
sophisticated purposes such as DNS, FTP server, Exim4 mail server,
openSLP server, SAMBA server, etc all running concurrently

<http://www.nslu2-linux.ORG/>
From: Grant Edwards on 6 Mar 2010 15:33
On 2010-03-06, Mark Hobley <markhobley(a)hotpop.donottypethisbit.com> wrote:
> General Schvantzkoph <schvantzkoph(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I don't understand this mania for trying to run modern software on an
>> antique machine, it's like putting a jet engine on a biplane.
>
> Not really. A Pentium 120 with 32Mb RAM is perfectly cable of running a
> multitasking graphical operating system.

I should say so. I used to run Linux with X11 comfortably in 8MB of
RAM with 80MB of disk space. Not to mention SusOS 3 with X11 in 4MB
of RAM.

> It's only code bloat that makes this impossible. The limitations
> encountered are not due to the machine, but due to poor
> implementation and bloated code.

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From: Michael Black on 6 Mar 2010 16:07
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, Sidney Lambe wrote:

> On comp.os.linux.misc, Stan Bischof <stan(a)newserve.worldbadminton.com> wrote:
>> jimmy_please(a)yahoo.com <jimmy_please(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> I have a really old laptop with 32mb ram and 3 gig disk space, plus 1
>>> usb, while still having hope to use for only web browsing.
>>>
>>> I've tried DSL but haven't figured out how to configure the wireless
>>> usb dongle.
>>> Knoppix is another option, as I was able to run it on an old desktop
>>> with 640mb ram, and the wireless usb dongle is recognized as soon as I
>>> plug it in. However, it won't boot the old laptop possibly due to the
>>> size of the limited memory.
>>>
>>> Which Linux distribution I should use for this size of memory with
>>> wireless usb dongle plug-n-play support?
>>
>> Save yourself a lot of grief and round up $40 or so and
>> buy a used far-more-capable laptop.
>>
>> 32MB RAM is just not enough to do much of anything useful
>> in the modern world.
>>
>> Stan
>>
>
> Nonsense. I normally use less than that. Unless you are using the
> Internet as a virtual shopping mall or a new variation of the
> boob tube for mindless entertainment, a textmode browser works
> just fine and you can download images and view them with zgv if
> needed.
>
And the last time you spouted off, you said you were using a very
old version of Slackware.

Which of course is one reason why you're so paranoid, you are using
an old system that is likely vulnerable. So many of your "workarounds"
wouldn't be needed if you actually upgraded.

I don't use a graphic browser most of the time, but when I need it, there
are specific reasons for it, and an old graphic browser isn't likely to
provide those needs

Since that is the sort of thing people often want, then they indeed have
to use more recent versions of Linux.

Michael
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