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From: Suzanne S. Barnhill on 6 Mar 2010 13:16 No, they are not. There is no � (acute accent) key per se; the ' key is used for apostrophes/single quotes and (when shifted) double quotes, and it is part of the setup key for letters with an acute accent. The ` key, when shifted, gives ~. It's actually rather a mystery why this key is present at all. I do use a tilde (so-called, though it's too low to be an accent over a letter) instead of an en dash or round bullet sometimes to separate items in display text, and of course it's used in URLs, but I see no practical use of the ` at all except as part of the setup key for letters with a grave accent. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" <StefanBlom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:OX5r9SUvKHA.796(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > So you are saying that � and ` aren't "dead" keys on a standard US/UK > keyboard layout? > > -- > Stefan Blom > Microsoft Word MVP > > > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message > news:OysxC5TvKHA.5008(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> But that's still an international keyboard layout. With the standard >> US/UK layout, we have to use the built-in keyboard shortcut: Ctrl+`, e. >> >> -- >> Suzanne S. Barnhill >> Microsoft MVP (Word) >> Words into Type >> Fairhope, Alabama USA >> http://word.mvps.org >> >> "Stefan Blom" <StefanBlom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:%23HG1A$SvKHA.6140(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>I just wrote ` because the actual keystrokes required are different >>>depending on your keyboard layout. On my Swedish keyboard, I will have to >>>type Shift+� to accomplish `. >>> >>> -- >>> Stefan Blom >>> Microsoft Word MVP >>> >>> >>> >>> "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim(a)verizon.net> wrote in message >>> news:1ddd7c0f-915e-4c66-b1a4-d6b1408c5477(a)g11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... >>> ? Is that on a French keyboard? On "English (US)," it's Ctrl-`, e >>> (same for each vowel with grave accent, cap or l.c.). >>> >>> On Mar 5, 11:47 am, "Stefan Blom" >>> <StefanB...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >>>> First type ` and then type the letter; the result will be: �. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Stefan Blom >>>> Microsoft Word MVP >>>> >>>> "deb" <d...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>> >>>> news:DA7B9FD1-B917-4A50-A874-8B7794C317AA(a)microsoft.com... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > how do i put ` mark over top of the letter e such as in Beef >>>> > Jardinie`re- >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > >
From: Stefan Blom on 6 Mar 2010 13:41 Interesting. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message news:%23J5tilVvKHA.812(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > No, they are not. There is no � (acute accent) key per se; the ' key is > used for apostrophes/single quotes and (when shifted) double quotes, and > it is part of the setup key for letters with an acute accent. The ` key, > when shifted, gives ~. It's actually rather a mystery why this key is > present at all. I do use a tilde (so-called, though it's too low to be an > accent over a letter) instead of an en dash or round bullet sometimes to > separate items in display text, and of course it's used in URLs, but I see > no practical use of the ` at all except as part of the setup key for > letters with a grave accent. > > -- > Suzanne S. Barnhill > Microsoft MVP (Word) > Words into Type > Fairhope, Alabama USA > http://word.mvps.org > > "Stefan Blom" <StefanBlom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:OX5r9SUvKHA.796(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> So you are saying that � and ` aren't "dead" keys on a standard US/UK >> keyboard layout? >> >> -- >> Stefan Blom >> Microsoft Word MVP >> >> >> >> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message >> news:OysxC5TvKHA.5008(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> But that's still an international keyboard layout. With the standard >>> US/UK layout, we have to use the built-in keyboard shortcut: Ctrl+`, e. >>> >>> -- >>> Suzanne S. Barnhill >>> Microsoft MVP (Word) >>> Words into Type >>> Fairhope, Alabama USA >>> http://word.mvps.org >>> >>> "Stefan Blom" <StefanBlom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:%23HG1A$SvKHA.6140(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>I just wrote ` because the actual keystrokes required are different >>>>depending on your keyboard layout. On my Swedish keyboard, I will have >>>>to type Shift+� to accomplish `. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Stefan Blom >>>> Microsoft Word MVP >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim(a)verizon.net> wrote in message >>>> news:1ddd7c0f-915e-4c66-b1a4-d6b1408c5477(a)g11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... >>>> ? Is that on a French keyboard? On "English (US)," it's Ctrl-`, e >>>> (same for each vowel with grave accent, cap or l.c.). >>>> >>>> On Mar 5, 11:47 am, "Stefan Blom" >>>> <StefanB...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >>>>> First type ` and then type the letter; the result will be: �. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Stefan Blom >>>>> Microsoft Word MVP >>>>> >>>>> "deb" <d...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>> >>>>> news:DA7B9FD1-B917-4A50-A874-8B7794C317AA(a)microsoft.com... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > how do i put ` mark over top of the letter e such as in Beef >>>>> > Jardinie`re- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >
From: Ian Rastall on 7 Mar 2010 01:08 On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:16:04 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote: >I see no practical use of the ` at all It's a left-single quote, which can be used for that purpose in any software that recognizes it as such. TeX is one application that uses it. Ian
From: Suzanne S. Barnhill on 7 Mar 2010 08:52 It is *not* a left single quote in Word (which is what this NG is about); it is a grave accent [U0060]. It can be used in the shortcut Ctrl+`, ` to insert a left single quote if Word's AutoFormat As You Type doesn't do so correctly, but it does not insert the left single quote character [U2018]. It is also an unwarranted intrusion in many contexts. I was frustrated for years with one Web site to which I posted regularly that converted the ' character [U0027] to `, making, for example, "don't" appear as "don`t"--very disconcerting. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Ian Rastall" <rastallian(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:tkg6p559b3tiksckmoqie6mhqp6sdeu1la(a)4ax.com... > On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:16:04 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" > <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote: > >>I see no practical use of the ` at all > > It's a left-single quote, which can be used for that purpose in any > software that recognizes it as such. TeX is one application that uses > it. > > Ian >
From: Twayne on 7 Mar 2010 17:02
In news:1ddd7c0f-915e-4c66-b1a4-d6b1408c5477(a)g11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com, Peter T. Daniels <grammatim(a)verizon.net> typed: > ? Is that on a French keyboard? On "English (US)," it's > Ctrl-`, e (same for each vowel with grave accent, cap or > l.c.). > > On Mar 5, 11:47 am, "Stefan Blom" > <StefanB...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> First type ` and then type the letter; the result will be: >> �. But that's not an overscore, which is what the OP aksed. Unfortunately there is no overscore on many keyboards so to use the keyboard, the language first has to be worked out. It's like no one can READ these days. Twayne >> >> -- >> Stefan Blom >> Microsoft Word MVP >> >> "deb" <d...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:DA7B9FD1-B917-4A50-A874-8B7794C317AA(a)microsoft.com... >> >> >> >>> how do i put ` mark over top of the letter e such as in >>> Beef Jardinie`re- -- -- Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered through personal experience does not become a part of the moral tissue. |