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From: Peter T. Daniels on 8 Mar 2010 15:50
The original fault was OP's (who never came back anyway), who used the
wrong term for "accent."

On Mar 8, 2:04 pm, "Twayne" <nob...(a)spamcop.net> wrote:
> Innews:3c186b7a-46e8-41d7-9bfc-18ea480d9b3b(a)d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com,
> Peter T. Daniels <gramma...(a)verizon.net> typed:
>
> > Looking at the order in which you posted your four messages
> > in this thread, it's clear that you didn't read the
> > messages you replied to.
>
> Hmm, you appear to be right!  Dunno how I screwed that up!  Got the wrong
> thread somehow!
> Thanks! And apologies to all for the screwup.
>
> HTH,
>
> Twayne`
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 7, 5:02 pm, "Twayne" <nob...(a)spamcop.net> wrote:
> >> Innews:1ddd7c0f-915e-4c66-b1a4-d6b1408c5477(a)g11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com,
> >> Peter T. Daniels <gramma...(a)verizon.net> typed:
>
> >>> ? Is that on a French keyboard? On "English (US)," it's
> >>> Ctrl-`, e (same for each vowel with grave accent, cap or
> >>> l.c.).
>
> >>> On Mar 5, 11:47 am, "Stefan Blom"
> >>> <StefanB...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>>> First type ` and then type the letter; the result will
> >>>> be: .
>
> >> But that's not an overscore, which is what the OP aksed.
> >> Unfortunately there is no overscore on many keyboards so
> >> to use the keyboard, the language first has to be worked
> >> out. It's like no one can READ these days.
>
> >> Twayne
>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Stefan Blom
> >>>> Microsoft Word MVP
>
> >>>> "deb" <d...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>
> >>>>news:DA7B9FD1-B917-4A50-A874-8B7794C317AA(a)microsoft.com...
>
> >>>>> how do i put ` mark over top of the letter e such as in
> >>>>> Beef Jardinie`re-
>
> --
> --
> Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
> through personal experience does not become a
> part of the moral tissue.-
From: Peter Jamieson on 9 Mar 2010 09:09
Yes, this key is a mystery.

FWIW the ` key is used by Word in a programming context, for want of a
better expression - it's used by some database driver/provider versions
to quote stuff such as table names in SQL SELECT statements, e.g. if you
insert an Excel .xls worksheet using a DATABASE field, or record a
MailMerge OpenDataSource.

I don't know about the US keyboard, but the UK version typically has
three characters on it:
a. at the top is a � (Unicode 0x00AC NOT SIGN) which you do get when
you shift.
b. at the bottom left is a ` (Unicode 0x0060 GRAVE ACCENT) which the
unshifted key gives you
c. at the bottom right is a character that looks like | (Unicode
0x007C VERTICAL LINE ). The only key combination that seems to get you
this is Alt-Gr+the key, but what is inserted is actually � (Unicode
0x00A6 BROKEN BAR).

On the UK keyboard there is usually a key to the left of the Z key with
a backsash \ at the bottom and a � (Unicode 0x00A6 BROKEN BAR) but
shift+this key actually gives you | (Unicode 0x007C VERTICAL LINE ).

Confusing when at least one of these is used for the Unix "Pipe"
character. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_bar)

Peter Jamieson

http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk

On 06/03/2010 18:16, Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
> No, they are not. There is no � (acute accent) key per se; the ' key is
> used for apostrophes/single quotes and (when shifted) double quotes, and
> it is part of the setup key for letters with an acute accent. The ` key,
> when shifted, gives ~. It's actually rather a mystery why this key is
> present at all. I do use a tilde (so-called, though it's too low to be
> an accent over a letter) instead of an en dash or round bullet sometimes
> to separate items in display text, and of course it's used in URLs, but
> I see no practical use of the ` at all except as part of the setup key
> for letters with a grave accent.
>
From: Suzanne S. Barnhill on 9 Mar 2010 09:26
Now that you mention it, the character that I use for "pipe" (VERTICAL LINE)
is in fact represented on my (US) keyboard by the BROKEN BAR, though I
hadn't noticed this before. But US keyboards don't have the Alt-Gr key, so
we don't have the third alternative you mention. Our ` character is
unshifted; when shifted it produces ~.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Peter Jamieson" <pjj(a)KillMAPSpjjnet.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ew31UI5vKHA.4196(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Yes, this key is a mystery.
>
> FWIW the ` key is used by Word in a programming context, for want of a
> better expression - it's used by some database driver/provider versions to
> quote stuff such as table names in SQL SELECT statements, e.g. if you
> insert an Excel .xls worksheet using a DATABASE field, or record a
> MailMerge OpenDataSource.
>
> I don't know about the US keyboard, but the UK version typically has three
> characters on it:
> a. at the top is a � (Unicode 0x00AC NOT SIGN) which you do get when you
> shift.
> b. at the bottom left is a ` (Unicode 0x0060 GRAVE ACCENT) which the
> unshifted key gives you
> c. at the bottom right is a character that looks like | (Unicode 0x007C
> VERTICAL LINE ). The only key combination that seems to get you this is
> Alt-Gr+the key, but what is inserted is actually � (Unicode 0x00A6 BROKEN
> BAR).
>
> On the UK keyboard there is usually a key to the left of the Z key with a
> backsash \ at the bottom and a � (Unicode 0x00A6 BROKEN BAR) but
> shift+this key actually gives you | (Unicode 0x007C VERTICAL LINE ).
>
> Confusing when at least one of these is used for the Unix "Pipe"
> character. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_bar)
>
> Peter Jamieson
>
> http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
>
> On 06/03/2010 18:16, Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
>> No, they are not. There is no � (acute accent) key per se; the ' key is
>> used for apostrophes/single quotes and (when shifted) double quotes, and
>> it is part of the setup key for letters with an acute accent. The ` key,
>> when shifted, gives ~. It's actually rather a mystery why this key is
>> present at all. I do use a tilde (so-called, though it's too low to be
>> an accent over a letter) instead of an en dash or round bullet sometimes
>> to separate items in display text, and of course it's used in URLs, but
>> I see no practical use of the ` at all except as part of the setup key
>> for letters with a grave accent.
>>

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